Obama caras con Hugo Chávez y Fidel Castro – No puede haber democracia para Honduras

Obama caras con Hugo Chávez y Fidel Castro – No puede haber democracia para Honduras
Publicado el 29 de junio de 2009, por mcauleysworld | Editar
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Obama dice que expulsión de Honduras no era “legal”

Por BEN FELLER, de Associated Press Ben Feller, periodista de Associated Press – hace 20 minutos
WASHINGTON – El presidente Barack Obama declaró el lunes que Estados Unidos sigue considerando a Manuel Zelaya, el presidente de Honduras y asaltaron el golpe que lo obligó al exilio como “no legal”, la profundización del abismo entre la nación centroamericana y … … .. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090629/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_us_honduras
¿Quieres conocer el resto “de la historia”?

¿Por qué Obama el Estado “Golpe de Estado”, si se trataba de un “golpe” no fue legal.

El término “golpe” tiene un significado jurídico específico. Se refiere a “un ejercicio repentina y decisiva del poder por el cual el gobierno actual se subvierte sin el consentimiento del pueblo”. Cuando un país es legal y democráticamente elegido Gobierno “elimina” a un individuo, utilizando los mecanismos apropiados descritos en virtud del mismo la Constitución, no es un “golpe de Estado”, sino un acto legalmente autorizada de Estado.

¿Qué ha ocurrido en Honduras no fue un golpe de Estado, sino una preservación de la democracia se indica en la Constitución de Honduras.

Honduras tiene una Constitución que ha sido actualizada por última vez y ratificado en 1982. “El presidente Zelaya fue elegido en 2006 para un mandato de cuatro años. La nueva Constitución de 1982 prohíbe a las elecciones. “Http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/story/coup_in_honduras/ Presdient Manuel Zelaya intentaba subvertir la Constitución de Honduras y pasivo a la reelección, cuando eso está prohibido por las leyes de Honduras. Existen procedimientos en Honduras para “cambiar” o “modifica” la Constitución, sin embargo, el Presidente Zelaya estaba tratando de subvertir el proceso legal y constitucional en Honduras. intento de Zelaya de modificar la Constitución de Honduras fue declarada “ilegal” e “inconstitucional” tanto por la Corte Suprema de Honduras y el Congreso de Honduras. Dos de las tres ramas del gobierno democráticamente electo de Honduras. Aquellas ramas de la governemnt movido en contra del presidente Zelaya y lo sacó del poder, no el militar. El militar fue simplemente el instrumento empleado por el Gobierno Popular de conseguir su libertad.

Presidente Zelaya ordenó a los militares para ayudar a él ilegalmente subvertir la Constitución de Honduras, la propia Constitución que los militares ha jurado defender. En Honduras, al igual que en los Estados Unidos, el Ejército y Polticians juramento de “defender” o “proteger y defender” la Constitución, no un juramento de defender cualquier partido o un político. Desde los días de Adolfo Hitler tiene un jurado lealtad militar a un “líder” o “Führer” en lugar de al País que sirven.

Cuando el presidente Zelaya ordenó a los militares para ayudar en su violación de la Constitución de Honduras, el Miliitary, bajo la dirección del Congreso y la Corte Suprema, el Presidente retirado de su cargo en lugar de seguir órdenes ilegales del Presidente. http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/story/coup_in_honduras/

Dos días antes que el presidente Zelaya fue “depuesto”, Zelaya “despedido” de Honduras Militar Jefe de Estado Mayor, general Romeo Vásquez. El despido se produjo, no por no seguir las órdenes, pero por no apoyar el intento inconstitucional del Presidente Zelaya para extender su mandato. http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/story/coup_in_honduras/ Los jefes de los hondureños Ejército, la Armada y la Fuerza Aérea luego renunció antes que aceptar órdenes ilegales de Zelaya.

Es posible que quiera saber quién más grandes partidarios del presidente Zelaya han sido en el pasado …. Hugo Chávez, el dictador venezolano que las cárceles y mata a candidatos de la oposición en su país, y Fidel Castro el dictador de Cuba. Lo que Chávez y Castro saber sobre “elecciones justas” no podría llenar un dedal. Chávez y Castro la cabeza dos de los gobiernos más represivos del mundo.

Los informes de estado de Honduras, “El país tiene ahora otro presidente nombrado por el Congreso, Roberto Micheletti, quien insistió en que Zelaya fue removido legalmente por los Tribunales y el Congreso por violar la Constitución de Honduras y el intento de extender su propio gobierno.” Http:// news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090629/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_us_honduras

El derrocamiento de Zelaya se produjo horas antes de los comicios fueron a abrir, en un referéndum constitucional que Zelaya estaba presionando forma ininterrumpida, incluso después que la Corte Suprema y el Fiscal General dijo que era ilegal. La constitución prohíbe cambios en algunas de sus cláusulas, como la prohibición de un presidente que atienden a más de un término. http://www.startribune.com/world/49380887.html?elr=KArks:DCiUBcy7hUiacyKUnciaec8O7EyUr

El Congreso votó para aceptar lo que dijo era la carta de renuncia de Zelaya, con los antiguos aliados de Zelaya, incluso volverse contra él. Congreso líder Roberto Micheletti fue juramentado en su cargo hasta 27 de enero, cuando concluya el mandato de Zelaya. Micheletti pertenece al Partido Liberal de Zelaya, pero con la oposición al presidente en el referéndum. “Mi lema será la conciliación de la gran familia de los hondureños … y un gran diálogo nacional”, dijo Micheletti después que el Congreso dio a los militares una larga ovación. http://www.startribune.com/world/49380887.html?elr=KArks:DCiUBcy7hUiacyKUnciaec8O7EyUr

Es curioso que el presidente Obama deja de mencionar que la Corte Suprema de Honduras y el Fiscal General de Honduras “declaró” que las acciones del ex presidente eran inconstitucionales e ilegales. Tampoco Obama mencionar el hecho de que el nuevo presidente es “el ex Presidente Adjunto del Partido” y fue el miembro superior rango del Partido del ex presidente en el Congreso. “Depuesto” no es el término apropiado aquí, debemos referirnos al juicio político del presidente Zelaya – porque con la aprobación del Congreso de Honduras y la Corte Suprema de Honduras, que es lo que sucedió, Zelaya fue destituido no depuesto.

Lo que ocurrió en Honduras no fue un golpe militar “. Los militares Honduarn no está ahora a cargo. El Congreso y la Corte Suprema de utilizar las fuerzas armadas para evitar una toma del poder por el ex Presidente Zeleya. El Congreso de Honduras, según la Ley de Honduras, ha nombrado a un sucesor legalmente para llenar el resto del mandato del ex presidente. El proceso que se siguió no es tan diferente que el proceso que se seguiría aquí en los Estados Unidos. El Gobierno de Honduras, con la excepción de Zeleya, permanece intacto. Esto no fue un “golpe de Estado” como el Gobierno no se sustituyen, simplemente eliminado a un individuo que insistió en seguir una línea de conducta inconstitucional e ilegal.

Los informes de prensa internacional de la semana anterior incluir la siguiente información “, la resolución de lectura en la planta de [Congreso Nacional de Honduras] Zelaya acusa de” conducta irregular manifiesto “y” poner en peligro la actualidad el estado de derecho “, por su negativa a obedecer una sentencia del Tribunal Supremo en contra de un referéndum constitucional trató de sujetarla. Zelaya, un cercano aliado del presidente venezolano Hugo Chávez, se trata de eliminar los límites a los mandatos presidenciales a través de un referéndum, preparando el camino para su reelección. Más tarde el Congreso aprobó la eliminación de Zelaya, y citó los artículos constitucionales que dijo el jefe del Congreso asume la presidencia en estos casos. líder del Congreso hondureño, Roberto Micheletti, ha sido designado para reemplazar al derrocado presidente José Manuel Zelaya. http://www.presstv.ir/classic/detail.aspx?id=99290&sectionid=351020706

Zelaya se negó a renunciar. Su retiro fue iniciado por el Congreso de Honduras y la Corte Suprema de Honduras, no la militar.

Esta situación sería análoga a un presidente de Estados Unidos tratando de cumplir un mandato de tercera de las objeciones del Congreso, la Corte Suprema y una violación directa de la Constitución estadounidense. Tengo que asumir un presidente de Estados Unidos de intentar hacer algo así sería destituido y encarcelado, y que en caso necesario, los EE.UU. militares sería utilizada por el Congreso y la Corte Suprema para “proteger y defender” la Constitución.

¿Por qué este movimiento extraño y antidemocrático de los Obama. Un intento de pura y simple, por un presidente de Estados Unidos, para apoyar a un individuo que estaba tratando de subvertir la Constitución de su país y violar la Ley Electoral de Honduras muy juró defender.

¿Por qué es que Obama está adoptando Hugo Chávez y Fidel Castro, en lugar de al Gobierno democráticamente electo de Honduras. El Gobierno de Honduras, en las personas del Congreso de Honduras y la Corte Suprema de Honduras, que fueron elegidos democráticamente también … y las ramas “igualdad de Gobierno” no estaban tratando de subvertir la Constitución hondureña, pero fueron excersing el apropiado “separación de poderes” , proteger al pueblo de Honduras del intento ilegal de Zelaya de subvertir las leyes y extender su poder.

Lo chocante para mí es que Obama se ha alineado con los dictadores, Chávez y Castro, otra vez. Chávez y Castro son a la vez megalomanics, tienen delirios de omnipotencia. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/megalomania. Es por eso que tanto Castro y Chávez han perseguido “cadena perpetua”, como presidentes de sus respectivas dictaduras, lo mismo que Zelaya estaba tratando de hacer en Honduras. Imagine a alguien realmente creer que no hay nadie más calificado para dirigir al pueblo en su país, nadie más, pero ellos mismos. En todo el país, nadie. Eso da miedo. No es de extrañar el pueblo hondureño Zelaya destituido. No es de extrañar el número 2 al hombre en su propio partido lo reemplazó con el apoyo del Congreso de Honduras.

Pero ¿qué pasa con Obama? ¿Por qué se relacionan con estos meglomaniacs que creen que son omnipotentes? ¿Por qué del lado de los represores “en lugar de aquellos que están por la libertad.

El ex presidente hondureño me recuerda de sus aliados, Chávez y Castro …. las normas sólo se aplican a los demás. La Constitución de Honduras sólo dice lo que quiere decir. No hay necesidad de una “separación de poderes” …. que quiere todo el poder para sí mismo. Tenemos un hombre muy peligroso en la Casa Blanca si está de acuerdo con Chávez y Castro y no con el imperio de la ley o la separación de poderes que se produce cuando usted tiene tres “ramas iguales” del Gobierno.

Si Obama no puede distinguir cuál de las partes en Honduras actuó legalmente y que no … que no deben ser de su oficina. Un hombre que actúa de subvertir la Constitución de su país contra su Congreso País, Juzgados y militares, no está “en el” derecho y una vez destituido de su cargo, ya no es el “Presidente democráticamente elegido”.

¿Qué sigue para Obama? ¿Se unirá a Chávez en su amenaza de una invasión militar de Honduras? ¿Va a poner nuestras fuerzas armadas en estado de alerta? ¿Por qué está del lado de Obama con Castro y Chávez contra el pueblo de Honduras? http://article.wn.com/view/2009/06/29/Chavez_threatens_to_invade_as_Honduran_army_stages_coup/
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Contrariamente a los informes de prensa, Honduras no ha sido “condenados” por su acción, de hecho los que han hablado en contra de Honduras son limitados en número – Obama, Hugo Chávez, Fidel Castro y el líder comunista de Nicaragua – Daniel Ortega.

Aliados Eurpopean de Estados Unidos no se han pronunciado contra el Gobierno de Honduras – de hecho, la BBC informa de lo siguiente:

El presidente interino Roberto Micheletti ha impuesto un toque de queda nocturno en Honduras, horas después de prestar juramento pulg

El orador Congreso asumió el cargo después de que tropas derrocado líder electo Manuel Zelaya y lo hizo volar a Costa Rica.

La remoción del señor Zelaya llegó en medio de una lucha de poder sobre sus planes para el cambio constitucional.

Sr. Zelaya, que había estado en el cargo desde 2006, quiso celebrar un referéndum que podría haber llevado a la prórroga de su mandato de cuatro años no renovables.

Las encuestas para el referéndum se ha debido a abrir la madrugada del domingo – pero las tropas lugar se lo llevó del palacio presidencial y lo hizo volar fuera del país.

El derrocamiento de Manuel Zelaya ha sido criticado por vecinos de la región y los EE.UU..

Sr. Micheletti dijo en una conferencia de prensa que el toque de queda en todo el país se impone para el domingo y el lunes, que va desde 2100 (0300 GMT) a 0600 (1200 GMT) en cada noche.

Días de tensión

La juramentación de Roberto Micheletti – constitucionalmente segundo en la línea de la Presidencia – fue recibido con aplausos en el Congreso.

En un discurso, dijo que no había asumido el poder “bajo la ignominia de un golpe de Estado”.

El ejército había cumplido con la Constitución, dijo, y había llegado a la presidencia “como resultado de un proceso de transición absolutamente legal”.

Congreso dijo que servir hasta el 27 de enero, cuando mandato del señor Zelaya debía expirar. Las elecciones presidenciales están previstas para el 29 de noviembre y el Sr. Micheletti prometió se iban por delante.

Tanto el Congreso y los tribunales se habían opuesto a referéndum el Sr. Zelaya, que pidió a los hondureños a apoyar una votación sobre los cambios constitucionales sin especificar junto con las elecciones de noviembre.

Las tensiones sobre el tema se ha ido en aumento por varios días, con el ejército negarse a ayudar con los preparativos para el referéndum.

Justo antes del amanecer del domingo, las tropas irrumpieron en la residencia del presidente. Había confusión sobre su paradero durante varias horas antes de que se presentó en Costa Rica.

Congreso dijo que había votado a favor de destituirlo debido a su “violaciónes repetido de la Constitución y la ley y la inobservancia de las órdenes y sentencias de las instituciones de Gobierno”.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8123513.stm

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Un final victorioso para el pueblo hondureño – El nuevo presidente asume el cargo – Devuelve Depuesto Zelaya al exilio
Publicado el 30 de enero 2010 por mcauleysworld | Editar
Nuevo presidente de Honduras, tome posesión del cargo; ex dirigente se exilia

Como nuevo Presidente de Honduras, Porfirio Lobo, asumió el cargo, deshonrado y depuesto ex presidente Manuel Zelaya voló al exilio permanente en la República Dominicana el pasado miércoles. Un acuerdo, negociado a principios de semana, ha permitido Zelaya para volver al exilio y evitar un juicio penal por algunos de los cargos que llevaron a su destitución por el verano pasado militar.

Zelaya, acompañado por su esposa, dos hijos y el presidente Leonel Fernández de República Dominicana, Honduras dejó pocas horas después de Porfirio Lobo fue juramentado como presidente.

En virtud de un acuerdo negociado por el Presidente Fernández, Zelaya acordó abandonar la Embajada de Brasil en Tegucigalpa, donde se había escondido desde el pasado septiembre, y para salir del país como Presidente Lobo tomó juramento de su cargo.

“Estaremos de vuelta”, gritó Zelaya antes de subir al avión. comentarios Zeleya parecía hueco ya que hay poco apoyo para su regreso en Honduras.

Lobo, un ranchero conservador elegido en noviembre, escoltado Zelaya al aeropuerto en una larga caravana, de acuerdo a la televisión hondureña.

“Dejamos atrás el pasado y ahora mira hacia el futuro”, dijo el presidente Lobo después de prestar juramento pulg-Pero usted no puede avanzar hacia el futuro sin sanar las heridas del pasado “.

Lobo primer acto como presidente fue firmar un decreto que concedía amnistía política para Zelaya. La medida, aprobada un día antes por el Congreso de Honduras, no conceda amnistía a los cargos de malversación que el ex presidente puede hacer frente.

La Corte Suprema exoneró Honduarn seis altos oficiales militares, entre ellos el jefe del Estado Mayor, al dictaminar que no actuaron con malicia cuando se redondea Zelaya el 28 de junio y lo hizo volar a Costa Rica. El fallo que se esperaba que los oficiales militares habían estado actuando por instrucciones de la Corte Suprema y el Congreso Honduarn. El fallo de la Suprema Corte de Honduras rechaza las alegaciones formuladas por Zelaya en la prensa internacional.

Posteriormente Zelaya, al amparo de la noche y con la asistencia del Gobierno brasileño, se coló de nuevo en Honduras y se escondió en la Embajada de Brasil. oferta vergonzoso de Zelaya para reclamar su oficina fueron infructuosos.

El verano pasado la Corte Suprema de Honduras ordenó el arresto de Zelaya por abuso de poder, la traición y otros cargos después de que él se negó a abandonar los planes para un referéndum que fue declarado ilegal y que el Congreso de Honduras dijo que estaba destinado a ayudarlo a mantenerse en el poder más allá de la una límite de plazo dispuesto por la Constitución hondureña.

En el momento el Gobierno democráticamente electo de Honduras de acuerdo con la Corte Suprema de Honduras y Zelaya se negó a reincorporar a la oficina a pesar de las denuncias internacionales.

Inexplicablemente, los Estados Unidos suspendió la ayuda a Honduras y tiró de las visas de algunos funcionarios hondureños que trabajan en el gobierno interino, un gobierno liderado por el presidente Roberto Micheletti. A pesar de que Micheletti, el segundo miembro rango de partido político de Zelaya, un partido que se volvió contra el depuesto líder y apoyaron su derrocamiento, estaba actuando de una manera constitucionalmente su caso, el Adminsitration Obama puso del lado de Zelaya y cortar la ayuda a uno de los países más pobres del hemisferio occidental.

La presión diplomática contra Honduras disminuyó incluso antes que el presidente Lobo ganó las elecciones, una elección que estaba prevista mucho antes de la detención de Zelaya por comportamiento ilegal.

Hubo señales el miércoles que la parte de la tierra pronto normalizar las relaciones con el nuevo gobierno. En los Estados Unidos, la indignación pública contra la postura de la Adminsitration de Obama en apoyo de Zelaya había atado las manos Administraciones e impidió cualquier tipo de apoyo significativo para el depuesto dictador.

aliado de Obama, el dictador Hugo Chávez de Venzuella, había amenazado con una invasión a Honduras para restablecer a Zelaya al poder.

El presidente izquierdista de El Salvador, Mauricio Funes, no asistió a la inauguración, pero ha dicho que restaurar los lazos diplomáticos una vez el presidente Lobo asumió el cargo.

Presidente Lobo dijo el martes que esperaba que los Estados Unidos pronto se restablecería millones de dólares en ayuda humanitaria.

Un alto funcionario del Departamento de Estado dijo que aunque el gobierno de EE.UU. considera que la primera se mueve del nuevo gobierno hondureño como “positivo”, no ha tomado una decisión sobre las ayudas.

(CONGRESO DE CONTACTO AQUÍ Y LA DEMANDA QUE AYUDA HONDURENA ser reintegrados AHORA: http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml)

A Victorious Ending For The Honduran People – New President Takes Office – Deposed Zelaya Returns to Exile

New Honduran president takes office; ex-leader goes into exile

As a new Honduran President, Porfirio Lobo, took office, disgraced and deposed former President Manuel Zelaya flew into permanent exile in the Dominican Republic this past Wednesday. An agreement, brokered earlier in the week, allowed Zelaya to return to exile and avoid a criminal trial for some of the charges that led to his ouster by the military last summer.

Zelaya, accompanied by his wife, two children and President Leonel Fernandez of the Dominican Republic, left Honduras just hours after Porfirio Lobo was sworn in as president.

Under an arrangement brokered by President Fernandez, Zelaya agreed to abandon the Brazilian Embassy in Tegucigalpa, where he had hid since this past September, and to leave the country as President Lobo took his oath of office.

“We’ll be back,” Zelaya shouted before boarding the plane. Zeleya’s comments seemed hollow as there is little support for his return in Honduras.  

Lobo, a conservative rancher elected in November, escorted Zelaya to the airport in a long caravan, according to Honduran television. 

“We leave the past behind now and look toward the future,” President Lobo said after being sworn in. “But you cannot advance to the future without healing the wounds of the past.”

Lobo’s first act as president was to sign a decree granting political amnesty for Zelaya. The measure, approved a day earlier by the Honduran Congress, does not grant amnesty for embezzlement charges that the former president may face.

The Honduarn Supreme Court exonerated six top military officers, including the military chief of staff, ruling that they did not act with malice when they rounded up Zelaya on June 28 and flew him to Costa Rica. The ruling had been expected as the military officers had been acting on instructions from the Supreme Court and the Honduarn Congress. The Honduran Supreme Court ruling repudiates the claims made by Zelaya in the international press.

Later Zelaya, under cover of night and with the assistance of the Brazilian Government, snuck back into Honduras and hid in the Brazilian Embassy.  Zelaya’s embarrassing bid to reclaim his office proved fruitless.

This past summer the Honduran Supreme Court ordered Zelaya’s arrest for abuse of power, treason and other charges after he refused to drop plans for a referendum that had been ruled illegal and that the Honduran Congress said was aimed at helping him stay in power beyond the one-term limit mandated by the Honduran Constitution.

At the time the Democratically elected Government of Honduras agreed with the Honduran Supreme Court and refused to reinstate Zelaya to office despite international complaints. 

Inexplicably, the United States cut off aid to Honduras and yanked the visas of some Honduran officials working in the interim government, a government led by interim President Roberto Micheletti. Despite the fact that Micheletti, the second ranking member of Zelaya’s political party, a party that turned against the deposed leader and supported his ouster, was acting in a Constitutionally appropriate manner, the Obama Adminsitration sided with Zelaya and cut off aid to one of the poorest countries in the Western Hemisphere.

Diplomatic pressure against Honduras waned even before President Lobo won election, an election that was scheduled long before Zelaya’s arrest for illegal conduct.

There were signs Wednesday that the some of the world would soon normalize relations with the new government. In the United States, public outrage against the Obama Adminsitration’s stance in support of Zelaya had tied the Administrations hands and prevented any meaningful support for the deposed Dictator.

Obama’s ally, Dictator Hugo Chavez of Venzuella, had threatened an invasion of Honduras to restore Zelaya to power.

The leftist president of El Salvador, Mauricio Funes, did not attend the inauguration but has said he would restore diplomatic ties once President Lobo took office.

President Lobo said Tuesday that he expected the United States would soon restore millions of dollars in humanitarian aid.

A senior State Department official said although the U.S. government views the first moves of the new Honduran government as “positive,” no decision has been made on aid. 

(CONTACT CONGRESS HERE AND DEMAND THAT HONDURAN AID BE REINSTATED NOW: http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml )

 

Voices From Honduras – A People Fight For Democracy

If you are a regular visitor you’ve read my post on the Honduras Crisis and how President Obama has sided with the Communists, Fidel Castro of Cuba, Hugo Chavez of Venezuela, Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua and the impeached, former President of Honduras, Manuel Zelaya.

I wish I had posted all of the responses that I have received from people who claim to be from Honduras, it was my mistake not to do so right from the start. 

I’m making this post in response to the following reply:  

R. Zuniga, on July 3rd, 2009 at 1:32 am Said: 

Excelent analysis! We -the Honduran people- was wondering if nobody in the US could see what was happening here… We were asking ourselves: Why the US goverment dont support our effort to save the democracy in our country?, insted of the US goverment -Pres. Obama are supporting to CHAVEZ and giving him the chance to convert our country to socialism or comunism -what a mistake! WE LOVE FREEDOM THAT DEMOCRACY GIVES THE PEOPLE! WE DONT WANT MANUEL ZELAYA BACK TO OUR COUNTRY!

I’m inviting the pro-democracy Hondurans to post here ……. and for like minded Americans to let the Honduran people know that America supports them …………. 

http://nuestravoice.com/?p=3029

For those who have not read the original post, I’ve re-posted it below.

The quick story is this. Honduras is a democracy, with a form of Government much like the U.S. The Honduran Constitution, like the U.S. Constitution, has a term limit for anyone serving as President. The impeached former President Zelaya, attempted to “extend” his term in office, to become “a President for life” – much like his allies the Communist dictators Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro. 

When Zelaya announced his intention to extend his term in officethe matter was taken to the Honduran Supreme Court, who ruled Zelaya’s actions unconstitutional and illegal. Zelaya ignored the Supreme Court and pressed on. The matter was then taken to the Honduran Congress, where Zelaya’s own party joined in voting articles of impeachment (referred to in the articles below as “reading contitutional articles”). Still Zelaya pressed on. Zelaya then ordered the Honduran military to assist him in the unconstitutional vote, a vote on a ballot that didn’t even specify the nature of the Constitutional changes Zelaya was trying to make. The Military refused the illegal orders and Zelaya “fired” the Honduran Chief of Staff. The heads of the Honduran Army, Navy and Air Force resigned their offices rather than follow the illegal order. Still Zelaya pressed on.

The Honduran Congress voted articles of impeachment and instructed the Army to take Zelaya into custody when he refused to step down.

These actions cannot be called a “coup”. Zelaya was removed from office Constitutionally. The Army does not now run Honduras. The Honduran Constitution calls for the head of the Honduran Congress to complete any unfullfilled term of the President after an impeachment. The head of the Honduran Congress has been sworn in as President and will complete the remainder of Zelaya’s term. Elections had already been scheduled for this November.

You may ask, who is the new Honduran President? Roberto Micheletti is the current President of Honduras. President Micheletti is a member of the impeached Zelaya’s Liberal Party. Zelaya’s Liberal party voted for his ouster.

THIS POST INVITES RESPONSES FROM THOSE IN HONDURAS WHO QUESTION WHY THE AMERICAN PRESS AND PRESIDENT OBAMA FALSELY CLAIM THAT A COUP HAS TAKEN PLACE AND HAVE TURNED TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNISTS RATHER THAN THE DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE OF HONDURAS. 

The Original Post:

Obama Sides With Fidel Castro & Hugo Chavez – Refuses To Recognize Legality Of Impeachment – Former Honduran President Zelaya

Posted on June 29, 2009 by mcauleysworld | Edit

Have you seen this article ……….

Obama says Honduran ouster was ‘not legal’

AP

By BEN FELLER, Associated Press Writer Ben Feller, Associated Press Writer 20 mins ago

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama on Monday declared that the United States still considers Manuel Zelaya to be the president of Honduras and assailed the coup that forced him into exile as “not legal,” deepening the chasm between the Central American nation and ……..  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090629/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_us_honduras

Want to know the “rest of the story”?

Why does Obama state the “Coup”, if it was a “Coup”, wasn’t legal.

The term “Coup” has a specific legal meaning. It refers to “a sudden, decisive exercise of power whereby the existing government is subverted without the consent of the people”. When a Country’s legally and Democratically elected Government “removes” an individual, using the appropriate mechanisms outlined under it’s Constitution, it is not a “Coup”, but a legally authorized act of State.

What happend in Honduras was not a Coup, but a preservation of the Democracy outlined in the Honduran Constitution.  

Honduras has a Constitution which was last updated and ratified in 1982. “President Zelaya was elected in 2006 to a four-year term. The 1982 constitution bans re-election.” http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/story/coup_in_honduras/ Presdient Manual Zelaya was attempting to subvert the the Honduran Constitution and stand for re-election, when that is prohibited under Honduran law. Procedures exist in Honduras for “changing” or “amending” the Constitution, however, President Zelaya was attempting to subvert that legal and Constitutional process in Honduras. Zelaya’s attempt to change the Honduran Constitution was declared “illegal” and “unconstitutional” by both the Honduran Supreme Court and the Honduran Congress. Two of the three branches of Honduras’ Democratically elected Government. Those Branches of Governemnt moved against President Zelaya and removed him from power, not the Military. The Military was simply the tool employed by the People’s Government to secure their freedom.    

President Zelaya ordered the Military to illegally help him subvert the Honduran Constitution, the very Constitution that the Military is sworn to uphold. In Honduras, like in the United States, the Military and Polticians take an oath to “uphold” or “protect and defend” the Constitution, not an oath to support any particular party or politician. Not since the days of Adolph Hitler has a military sworn allegiance to a “leader” or “Furher” rather than to the Country they serve.

When President Zelaya ordered the Military to assist in his violation of the Honduran Constitution, the Miliitary, at the direction of the Congress and the Supreme Court, removed the President from office rather than follow the President’s  illegal orders. http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/story/coup_in_honduras/ 

Two days before President Zelaya was “deposed”, Zelaya “fired” the Honduran Military Chief of Staff, General Romeo Vasquez. The dismissal came, not for failing to follow orders, but for failing to support President Zelaya’s unconstitutional attempt to extend his term in office. http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/story/coup_in_honduras/  The heads of the Honduran Army, Navy and Air Force then resigned rather than accept Zelaya’s illegal orders.  

You might like to know who President Zelaya’s biggest supporters have been in the past …. Hugo Chavez, the Venezuelan dictator who jails and kills opposition candidates in his Country, and Fidel Castro, the dictator of Cuba. What Chavez and Castro know about “fair elections” wouldn’t fill a thimble. Chavez and Castro head two of the most repressive governments in the world.  

Reports from Honduras state, “ The country now has another president appointed by its Congress, Roberto Micheletti, who insisted that Zelaya was legally removed by the Courts and Congress for violating Honduras’ constitution and attempting to extend his own rule.” http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090629/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_us_honduras

The Zelaya ouster came hours before polls were to open on a constitutional referendum that Zelaya was pushing ahead even after the Supreme Court and the Attorney General said it was illegal. The constitution bars changes to some of its clauses, such as the ban on a president serving more than one term.                                                                                                  http://www.startribune.com/world/49380887.html?elr=KArks:DCiUBcy7hUiacyKUnciaec8O7EyUr

Congress voted to accept what it said was Zelaya’s letter of resignation, with even Zelaya’s former allies turning against him. Congressional leader Roberto Micheletti was sworn in to serve until Jan. 27 when Zelaya’s term ends. Micheletti belongs to Zelaya’s Liberal Party, but opposed the president in the referendum. “My slogan will be the reconciliation of the grand family of Hondurans … and a grand national dialogue,” Micheletti said after Congress gave the military a long standing ovation. http://www.startribune.com/world/49380887.html?elr=KArks:DCiUBcy7hUiacyKUnciaec8O7EyUr

Funny that President Obama neglects to mention that the Honduran Supreme Court and the Honduran Attorney General “ruled” that the former President’s actions were unconstitutional and illegal. Nor did Obama mention the fact that the new President is the former President’s “Party Deputy” and was the top ranking member of the former President’s Party in Congress. ”Deposed” is not the proper term here, we should be referring to President Zelaya’s impeachment – because with the approval of the Honduran Congress and the Honduran Supreme Court, that is what happened, Zelaya was impeached not deposed.

What happened in Honduras was not a “military takeover”. The Honduran Military is not now in charge. The Honduran Congress and Supreme Court used the Military to prevent a power grab by former President Zeleya. The Honduran Congress, following Honduran Law, has legally appointed a successor to fill the remainder of the former President’s term. The process that was followed is not all that different than the process that would be followed here in the United States.  The Honduran Government, with the exception of Zeleya, remains intact. This was not a “Coup” as the Government did not replace itself, it simply removed an individual who insisted on following a course of unconstitutional and illegal conduct.

International Press reports of the previous week include the following information, “A resolution read on the floor of [Honduran] Congress accuses Zelaya of “manifest irregular conduct” and “putting in present danger the state of law,” for his refusal to obey a Supreme Court ruling against a constitutional referendum he wanted to hold.  Zelaya, a close ally of the Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, was seeking to remove the limits on presidential terms through a referendum, paving the way for his re-election. Later in the day Congress approved the removal of Zelaya, and cited constitutional articles that said the head of congress assumes the presidency in such cases. Honduran congressional leader, Roberto Micheletti, has been designated to replace the ousted president Jose Manuel Zelaya. http://www.presstv.ir/classic/detail.aspx?id=99290&sectionid=351020706 

Zelaya refused to step down. His removal was initiated by the Honduran Congress and the Honduran Supreme Court, not the Military.  

This situation would be analogous to an American President attempting to serve a 3rd term over the objections of Congress, the Supreme Court and in direct violation of the American Constitution. I have to assume an American President attempting to do such a thing would be impeached and jailed, and that if necessary, the U.S. Military would be used by the Congress and the Supreme Court to “protect and defend” the Constitution.    

Why this strange and undemocratic move by Obama. An outright attempt, , by an American President, to prop up an individual who was attempting to subvert his country’s Constitution and violate the very Honduran Election Law he was sworn to uphold.

Why is it that Obama is embracing Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro, rather than the democratically elected Government of Honduras. The Honduran Government, in the persons of the Honduran Congress and the Honduran Supreme Court, who were democratically elected  …  those “equal branches of Government” were not attempting to subvert the Honduran Constitution, but were excersing the appropriate “separation of powers”, protecting the people of Honduras from Zelaya’s unlawful attempt to subvert the laws and extend his power.

The shocking thing to me is that Obama has sided with the dictators, Chavez and Castro, again. Chavez and Castro are both megalomanics, they have delusions of omnipotence. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/megalomania . That is why both Castro and Chavez have pursued “life terms” as the Presidents of their respective dictatorships, the same thing that Zelaya was attempting to do in Honduras. Imagine someone really believing that there is no one else qualified to lead the people in their Country, no one else, but themselves. In the entire Country, no one. That is scary. No wonder the Honduran People impeached Zelaya. No wonder the number 2 man in his own Party replaced him with the support of the Honduran Congress.

But what about Obama? Why does he relate to these meglomaniacs who believe they are omnipotent? Why does he side with the “repressors” rather than those who stand for freedom.   

The former Honduran President reminds me of his allies, Chavez and Castro …. the rules only apply to others. The Honduran Constitution only says what he wants it to say. There is no need for a “separation of powers”  …. he wants all the power to himself. We have a very dangerous man in the White House if he agrees with Chavez and Castro rather than with the rule of law or the separation of powers that occurs when you have three ”equal branches” of Government.

If Obama can’t distinguish which of the parties in Honduras acted legally and who did not … he doesn’t deserve to hold his office. One man acting to subvert his Country’s Constitution against his Country’s Congress, Courts and Military, is not “in the right” and once removed from office, is no longer the “democratically elected President”.

What is next for Obama? Will he join Chavez in his threat of a military invasion of Honduras? Will he put our Military on alert? Why is Obama siding with Castro and Chavez against the people of Honduras?  http://article.wn.com/view/2009/06/29/Chavez_threatens_to_invade_as_Honduran_army_stages_coup/

UPDATE : UPDATE : UPDATE

Contrary to the press reports, Honduras has not been “condemned” for its action, in fact those who have spoken out against Honduras are limited in number – Obama, Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro and the Communist Leader of Nicaragua – Daniel Ortega.

America’s Eurpopean Allies have not spoken out against the Honduran Government – in fact the BBC reports the following:

Interim President Roberto Micheletti has imposed an overnight curfew in Honduras, hours after being sworn in.

The Congress speaker took office after troops ousted elected leader Manuel Zelaya and flew him to Costa Rica.

The removal of Mr Zelaya came amid a power struggle over his plans for constitutional change.

Mr Zelaya, who had been in office since 2006, wanted to hold a referendum that could have led to an extension of his non-renewable four-year term.

Polls for the referendum had been due to open early on Sunday – but troops instead took him from the presidential palace and flew him out of the country.

The ousting of Manuel Zelaya has been criticised by regional neighbours and the US.

Days of tension

The swearing in of Roberto Micheletti – constitutionally second in line for the presidency – was greeted with applause in Congress.

In a speech, he said that he had not assumed power “under the ignominy of a coup d’etat”.

The army had complied with the constitution, he said, and he had reached the presidency “as the result of an absolutely legal transition process”.

Congress said he would serve until 27 January, when Mr Zelaya’s term was due to expire. Presidential elections are planned for 29 November and Mr Micheletti promised these would go ahead.

Both Congress and the courts had opposed Mr Zelaya’s referendum, which asked Hondurans to endorse a vote on unspecified constitutional changes alongside the November elections.

Tensions over the issue had been escalating for several days, with the army refusing to help with preparations for the referendum.

Just before dawn on Sunday, troops stormed the president’s residence. There was confusion over his whereabouts for several hours before he turned up in Costa Rica. 

Congress said it had voted to remove him because of his “repeated violations of the constitution and the law and disregard of orders and judgments of the institutions of Government”.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8123513.stm

Demint (R-SC) Stands with People of Honduras

Ousted President Manuel Zelaya called it a coup, but the reality is the left-wing leader (who was attempting to unilaterally subvert the Honduran Constitution to consolidate his power and install himself as permanent dictator of the country) was ousted by the other constitutional branches of government which called in the military to help preserve their Constitution.  Honduran citizen Yolanda Campos posted the following comment on ozarkguru’s post the other day:

I’m from Honduras, and this is the first time I read something that tells the truth about what is happening in Honduras. I can’t not believe Obama will support Mel Zelaya knowing, Hugo Chavez is behind all this.

President Obama sided with the UN and his newfound friends, left-wing Latin American radical anti-US zealots Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez, in demanding Zelaya’s reinstatement to office.  Imagine, an American President demanding the reinstatement of a wannabe Socialist dictator in a country of the Americas!  Hondurans who cherish democracy and freedom must have been as shocked as Iranian supporters of Mousavi were when the American President slipped out for ice cream without comment on their violent deaths at the hands of Iran’s anti-US theocracy.

Yes, it’s becoming a pattern, seemingly a planned part of Obama’s foreign policy, for the US President to stand against any friend and with any foe to support tyrants, despots, and dictators across the globe.  Fortunately for freedom seekers, the power of our government doesn’t rest solely in the Executive Branch.

Yesterday, Sen. Jim Demint (R-SC) issued a press release in which he recognizes the constitutionality of the events in Honduras. “This is not an ideal transition, but Hondurans are adhering to their constitution. The United States should support the Honduran people and their legitimate leaders in their brave and heroic stand for freedom and the rule of law,” says Demint.

He also admonishes President Obama for his “slap in the face to the people of Honduras.” Demint goes on to add, “I am hopeful that as President Obama grows in office, he will eventually turn away from despots like Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Castro, and Zelaya, and give the United States’ full-throated support to the people of any country who are fighting for the same values we cherish and defend in America. The people fighting for freedom around the world, in Iran and Honduras, should never have to wonder which side America will choose between freedom and tyranny.”

I’m glad to see a Republican standing tall on the right side of this issue and condemning our own Socialist President’s defense of Zelaya.

http://americayouaskedforit.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/demint-r-sc-stands-with-people-of-honduras/

July 3, 2009

Hands Off Honduras!

By Patrick Buchanan

Last Saturday, Honduran soldiers marched into the presidential palace, bundled up President Manuel Zelaya and put him on a plane for Costa Rica.

The ouster had been ordered by the Supreme Court and approved by the Congress, as Zelaya was attempting an illegal referendum to change the Honduran constitution so he could run for another term.

Will someone please explain why this bloodless transfer of power to the civilian legislator first in line for the presidency, in a sovereign nation, is any business of the United Nations, the Organization of American States, Hugo Chavez, the Castro brothers or Barack Obama? For all have denounced the “coup” and demanded Zelaya’s immediate return.

“We have established a democratic government, and we will not cede to pressure from anyone. We are a sovereign country,” said Roberto Micheletti, who was named caretaker president to serve out Zelaya’s term, which ends this year.

Unlike Tehran, where hundreds of thousands protested the election, the streets of Tegucigalpa have remained calm. No one has been shot, beaten with clubs or run down by thugs on motorcycles.

Just whose side is Barack on in Latin America?

Though elected as a center-right candidate, Zelaya has moved into the orbit of Chavez, whose idea it was to change the Honduran constitution to get Zelaya another term. Hugo even provided the ballots. In Latin America, term limits have been written into constitutions to prevent a return to the time of the dictators and presidents-for-life. The folks who put Zelaya aboard that plane are friends of the United States.

Like Barack’s strange behavior in Trinidad, where he grinned away as Chavez handed him an anti-American tract, then listened for an hour to Daniel Ortega berate us for cruelty to Castro’s Cuba, without protest or retort, Obama is coming off as one who shares the international left’s view of the United States.

There is another issue raised by Obama’s denunciation of our friends in Honduras. Does he put ideology ahead of U.S. national interests?

What comes first with Obama?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/07/03/hands_off_honduras_97288.html
July 3, 2009

Wrong Again

By Oliver North

WASHINGTON — It took the Obama administration eight days to figure out whether Iranians being gunned down for protesting a fraudulent election and demanding basic civil liberties deserved to be acknowledged by the president of the United States. It took the O-Team less than eight hours to side with Cuba’s Fidel Castro, Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez and Nicaragua’s Daniel Ortega over the ouster of Manuel Zelaya in Honduras.

As we now have come to expect, Mr. Obama got it wrong again, but this time, nobody noticed. The U.S. news media, preoccupied with the sudden demise of Michael Jackson, ignored the event in Central America. For those who care about things more important than the passing of a “pop music legend,” here’s the rest of the story:

Manuel Zelaya, a wealthy rancher and agribusiness executive and a self-described “poor farmer,” won a four-year term as Honduran president in November 2005, with 49.8 percent of the vote. Article 374 of the Honduran Constitution bars the nation’s chief executive from serving consecutive terms. Apparently, one term wasn’t enough for Zelaya, a protégé of Venezuela’s strongman, Hugo Chavez, and Nicaragua’s phobic anti-American leader, Daniel Ortega.

Late last year, as the Honduran economy tanked and unemployment grew to nearly 28 percent, Zelaya forced Elvin Santos, the country’s elected vice president, to resign and began holding conversations with Chavez and Ortega on how to hold on to power. In lengthy Chavez-like populist speeches, he denounced the U.S. and wealthy landowners and linked himself with leftists in the Honduran labor movement. On March 23, he issued an executive decree directing a national referendum on a Venezuela-style constituent assembly to rewrite the country’s constitution in time for presidential and legislative elections in November. The Obama-Clinton State Department was mute about all of this.

Unfortunately for Zelaya’s aspirations, the Honduran Constitution requires that amendments be passed by a two-thirds vote of the country’s unicameral Congress during two consecutive sessions. By late May, the Honduran Congress, the Honduran Supreme Court, the commissioner for human rights, and the Honduran electoral tribunal all had overwhelmingly declared the referendum unconstitutional. Zelaya ignored the people’s representatives, had ballots printed in Venezuela (by Hugo Chavez’s Government), and announced that the vote would take place June 28. Again, the O-Team was silent.

In keeping with the rule of law, Honduran Attorney General Luis Alberto Rubi took the case to court. The Honduran Supreme Court ruled the referendum to be illegal and ordered the ballots to be confiscated. Late on June 23, Zelaya countermanded the court order and directed the army to distribute the ballots. Gen. Romeo Vasquez, the chief of staff of the Honduran military, sought legal opinions and decided not to distribute them. The following day, Zelaya accepted the resignation of the minister of defense, Edmundo Orellana, and fired Vasquez.   http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/07/03/wrong_again_97287.html

Obama Sides With Fidel Castro & Hugo Chavez – Refuses To Recognize Legality Of Impeachment – Former Honduran President Zelaya

Have you seen this article ……….

Obama says Honduran ouster was ‘not legal’

AP

By BEN FELLER, Associated Press Writer Ben Feller, Associated Press Writer 20 mins ago

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama on Monday declared that the United States still considers Manuel Zelaya to be the president of Honduras and assailed the coup that forced him into exile as “not legal,” deepening the chasm between the Central American nation and ……..  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090629/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_us_honduras

Want to know the “rest of the story”?

http://nuestravoice.com/?p=3029

Why does Obama state the “Coup”, if it was a “Coup” wasn’t legal.

The term “Coup” has a specific legal meaning. It refers to “a sudden, decisive exercise of power whereby the existing government is subverted without the consent of the people”. When a Country’s legally and Democratically elected Government “removes” an individual, using the appropriate mechanisms outlined under it’s Constitution, it is not a “Coup”, but a legally authorized act of State.

What happend in Honduras was not a Coup, but a preservation of the Democracy outlined in the Honduran Constitution.  

Honduras has a Constitution which was last updated and ratified in 1982. “President Zelaya was elected in 2006 to a four-year term. The 1982 constitution bans re-election.” http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/story/coup_in_honduras/ Presdient Manual Zelaya was attempting to subvert the the Honduran Constitution and stand for re-election, when that is prohibited under Honduran law. Procedures exist in Honduras for “changing” or “amending” the Constitution, however, President Zelaya was attempting to subvert that legal and Constitutional process in Honduras. Zelaya’s attempt to change the Honduran Constitution was declared “illegal” and “unconstitutional” by both the Honduran Supreme Court and the Honduran Congress. Two of the three branches of Honduras’ Democratically elected Government. Those Branches of Governemnt moved against President Zelaya and removed him from power, not the Military. The Military was simply the tool employed by the People’s Government to secure their freedom.    

President Zelaya ordered the Military to illegally help him subvert the Honduran Constitution, the very Constitution that the Military is sworn to uphold. In Honduras, like in the United States, the Military and Polticians take an oath to “uphold” or “protect and defend” the Constitution, not an oath to support any particular party or politician. Not since the days of Adolph Hitler has a military sworn allegiance to a “leader” or “Furher” rather than to the Country they serve.

When President Zelaya ordered the Military to assist in his violation of the Honduran Constitution, the Miliitary, at the direction of the Congress and the Supreme Court, removed the President from office rather than follow the President’s  illegal orders. http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/story/coup_in_honduras/ 

Two days before President Zelaya was “deposed”, Zelaya “fired” the Honduran Military Chief of Staff, General Romeo Vasquez. The dismissal came, not for failing to follow orders, but for failing to support President Zelaya’s unconstitutional attempt to extend his term in office. http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/story/coup_in_honduras/  The heads of the Honduran Army, Navy and Air Force then resigned rather than accept Zelaya’s illegal orders.  

You might like to know who President Zelaya’s biggest supporters have been in the past …. Hugo Chavez, the Venezuelan dictator who jails and kills opposition candidates in his Country, and Fidel Castro, the dictator of Cuba. What Chavez and Castro know about “fair elections” wouldn’t fill a thimble. Chavez and Castro head two of the most repressive governments in the world.  

Reports from Honduras state, “ The country now has another president appointed by its Congress, Roberto Micheletti, who insisted that Zelaya was legally removed by the Courts and Congress for violating Honduras’ constitution and attempting to extend his own rule.” http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090629/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_us_honduras

The Zelaya ouster came hours before polls were to open on a constitutional referendum that Zelaya was pushing ahead even after the Supreme Court and the Attorney General said it was illegal. The constitution bars changes to some of its clauses, such as the ban on a president serving more than one term.                                                                                                  http://www.startribune.com/world/49380887.html?elr=KArks:DCiUBcy7hUiacyKUnciaec8O7EyUr

Congress voted to accept what it said was Zelaya’s letter of resignation, with even Zelaya’s former allies turning against him. Congressional leader Roberto Micheletti was sworn in to serve until Jan. 27 when Zelaya’s term ends. Micheletti belongs to Zelaya’s Liberal Party, but opposed the president in the referendum. “My slogan will be the reconciliation of the grand family of Hondurans … and a grand national dialogue,” Micheletti said after Congress gave the military a long standing ovation. http://www.startribune.com/world/49380887.html?elr=KArks:DCiUBcy7hUiacyKUnciaec8O7EyUr

Funny that President Obama neglects to mention that the Honduran Supreme Court and the Honduran Attorney General “ruled” that the former President’s actions were unconstitutional and illegal. Nor did Obama mention the fact that the new President is the former President’s “Party Deputy” and was the top ranking member of the former President’s Party in Congress. ”Deposed” is not the proper term here, we should be referring to President Zelaya’s impeachment – because with the approval of the Honduran Congress and the Honduran Supreme Court, that is what happened, Zelaya was impeached not deposed.

What happened in Honduras was not a “military takeover”. The Honduran Military is not now in charge. The Honduran Congress and Supreme Court used the Military to prevent a power grab by former President Zeleya. The Honduran Congress, following Honduran Law, has legally appointed a successor to fill the remainder of the former President’s term. The process that was followed is not all that different than the process that would be followed here in the United States.  The Honduran Government, with the exception of Zeleya, remains intact. This was not a “Coup” as the Government did not replace itself, it simply removed an individual who insisted on following a course of unconstitutional and illegal conduct.

International Press reports of the previous week include the following information, “A resolution read on the floor of [Honduran] Congress accuses Zelaya of “manifest irregular conduct” and “putting in present danger the state of law,” for his refusal to obey a Supreme Court ruling against a constitutional referendum he wanted to hold.  Zelaya, a close ally of the Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, was seeking to remove the limits on presidential terms through a referendum, paving the way for his re-election. Later in the day Congress approved the removal of Zelaya, and cited constitutional articles that said the head of congress assumes the presidency in such cases. Honduran congressional leader, Roberto Micheletti, has been designated to replace the ousted president Jose Manuel Zelaya. http://www.presstv.ir/classic/detail.aspx?id=99290&sectionid=351020706 

Zelaya refused to step down. His removal was initiated by the Honduran Congress and the Honduran Supreme Court, not the Military.  

This situation would be analogous to an American President attempting to serve a 3rd term over the objections of Congress, the Supreme Court and in direct violation of the American Constitution. I have to assume an American President attempting to do such a thing would be impeached and jailed, and that if necessary, the U.S. Military would be used by the Congress and the Supreme Court to “protect and defend” the Constitution.    

Why this strange and undemocratic move by Obama. An outright attempt, , by an American President, to prop up an individual who was attempting to subvert his country’s Constitution and violate the very Honduran Election Law he was sworn to uphold.

Why is it that Obama is embracing Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro, rather than the democratically elected Government of Honduras. The Honduran Government, in the persons of the Honduran Congress and the Honduran Supreme Court, who were democratically elected  …  those “equal branches of Government” were not attempting to subvert the Honduran Constitution, but were excersing the appropriate “separation of powers”, protecting the people of Honduras from Zelaya’s unlawful attempt to subvert the laws and extend his power.

The shocking thing to me is that Obama has sided with the dictators, Chavez and Castro, again. Chavez and Castro are both megalomanics, they have delusions of omnipotence. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/megalomania . That is why both Castro and Chavez have pursued “life terms” as the Presidents of their respective dictatorships, the same thing that Zelaya was attempting to do in Honduras. Imagine someone really believing that there is no one else qualified to lead the people in their Country, no one else, but themselves. In the entire Country, no one. That is scary. No wonder the Honduran People impeached Zelaya. No wonder the number 2 man in his own Party replaced him with the support of the Honduran Congress.

But what about Obama? Why does he relate to these meglomaniacs who believe they are omnipotent? Why does he side with the “repressors” rather than those who stand for freedom.   

The former Honduran President reminds me of his allies, Chavez and Castro …. the rules only apply to others. The Honduran Constitution only says what he wants it to say. There is no need for a “separation of powers”  …. he wants all the power to himself. We have a very dangerous man in the White House if he agrees with Chavez and Castro rather than with the rule of law or the separation of powers that occurs when you have three ”equal branches” of Government.

If Obama can’t distinguish which of the parties in Honduras acted legally and who did not … he doesn’t deserve to hold his office. One man acting to subvert his Country’s Constitution against his Country’s Congress, Courts and Military, is not “in the right” and once removed from office, is no longer the “democratically elected President”.

What is next for Obama? Will he join Chavez in his threat of a military invasion of Honduras? Will he put our Military on alert? Why is Obama siding with Castro and Chavez against the people of Honduras?  http://article.wn.com/view/2009/06/29/Chavez_threatens_to_invade_as_Honduran_army_stages_coup/

UPDATE : UPDATE : UPDATE

Contrary to the press reports, Honduras has not been “condemned” for its action, in fact those who have spoken out against Honduras are limited in number – Obama, Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro and the Communist Leader of Nicaragua – Daniel Ortega.

America’s Eurpopean Allies have not spoken out against the Honduran Government – in fact the BBC reports the following:

Interim President Roberto Micheletti has imposed an overnight curfew in Honduras, hours after being sworn in.

The Congress speaker took office after troops ousted elected leader Manuel Zelaya and flew him to Costa Rica.

The removal of Mr Zelaya came amid a power struggle over his plans for constitutional change.

Mr Zelaya, who had been in office since 2006, wanted to hold a referendum that could have led to an extension of his non-renewable four-year term.

Polls for the referendum had been due to open early on Sunday – but troops instead took him from the presidential palace and flew him out of the country.

The ousting of Manuel Zelaya has been criticised by regional neighbours and the US.

Days of tension

The swearing in of Roberto Micheletti – constitutionally second in line for the presidency – was greeted with applause in Congress.

In a speech, he said that he had not assumed power “under the ignominy of a coup d’etat”.

The army had complied with the constitution, he said, and he had reached the presidency “as the result of an absolutely legal transition process”.

Congress said he would serve until 27 January, when Mr Zelaya’s term was due to expire. Presidential elections are planned for 29 November and Mr Micheletti promised these would go ahead.

Both Congress and the courts had opposed Mr Zelaya’s referendum, which asked Hondurans to endorse a vote on unspecified constitutional changes alongside the November elections.

Tensions over the issue had been escalating for several days, with the army refusing to help with preparations for the referendum.

Just before dawn on Sunday, troops stormed the president’s residence. There was confusion over his whereabouts for several hours before he turned up in Costa Rica. 

Congress said it had voted to remove him because of his “repeated violations of the constitution and the law and disregard of orders and judgments of the institutions of Government”.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8123513.stm

Obama Sides With Hugo Chavez And Fidel Castro – No Democracy For Honduras

Have you seen this article ……….

Obama says Honduran ouster was ‘not legal’

AP

By BEN FELLER, Associated Press Writer Ben Feller, Associated Press Writer 20 mins ago

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama on Monday declared that the United States still considers Manuel Zelaya to be the president of Honduras and assailed the coup that forced him into exile as “not legal,” deepening the chasm between the Central American nation and ……..  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090629/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_us_honduras

Want to know the “rest of the story”?

Why does Obama state the “Coup”, if it was a “Coup” wasn’t legal.

The term “Coup” has a specific legal meaning. It refers to “a sudden, decisive exercise of power whereby the existing government is subverted without the consent of the people”. When a Country’s legally and Democratically elected Government “removes” an individual, using the appropriate mechanisms outlined under it’s Constitution, it is not a “Coup”, but a legally authorized act of State.

What happend in Honduras was not a Coup, but a preservation of the Democracy outlined in the Honduran Constitution.  

Honduras has a Constitution which was last updated and ratified in 1982. “President Zelaya was elected in 2006 to a four-year term. The 1982 constitution bans re-election.” http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/story/coup_in_honduras/ Presdient Manual Zelaya was attempting to subvert the the Honduran Constitution and stand for re-election, when that is prohibited under Honduran law. Procedures exist in Honduras for “changing” or “amending” the Constitution, however, President Zelaya was attempting to subvert that legal and Constitutional process in Honduras. Zelaya’s attempt to change the Honduran Constitution was declared “illegal” and “unconstitutional” by both the Honduran Supreme Court and the Honduran Congress. Two of the three branches of Honduras’ Democratically elected Government. Those Branches of Governemnt moved against President Zelaya and removed him from power, not the Military. The Military was simply the tool employed by the People’s Government to secure their freedom.    

President Zelaya ordered the Military to illegally help him subvert the Honduran Constitution, the very Constitution that the Military is sworn to uphold. In Honduras, like in the United States, the Military and Polticians take an oath to “uphold” or “protect and defend” the Constitution, not an oath to support any particular party or politician. Not since the days of Adolph Hitler has a military sworn allegiance to a “leader” or “Furher” rather than to the Country they serve.

When President Zelaya ordered the Military to assist in his violation of the Honduran Constitution, the Miliitary, at the direction of the Congress and the Supreme Court, removed the President from office rather than follow the President’s  illegal orders. http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/story/coup_in_honduras/ 

Two days before President Zelaya was “deposed”, Zelaya “fired” the Honduran Military Chief of Staff, General Romeo Vasquez. The dismissal came, not for failing to follow orders, but for failing to support President Zelaya’s unconstitutional attempt to extend his term in office. http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/story/coup_in_honduras/  The heads of the Honduran Army, Navy and Air Force then resigned rather than accept Zelaya’s illegal orders.  

You might like to know who President Zelaya’s biggest supporters have been in the past …. Hugo Chavez, the Venezuelan dictator who jails and kills opposition candidates in his Country, and Fidel Castro, the dictator of Cuba. What Chavez and Castro know about “fair elections” wouldn’t fill a thimble. Chavez and Castro head two of the most repressive governments in the world.  

Reports from Honduras state, “ The country now has another president appointed by its Congress, Roberto Micheletti, who insisted that Zelaya was legally removed by the Courts and Congress for violating Honduras’ constitution and attempting to extend his own rule.” http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090629/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_us_honduras

The Zelaya ouster came hours before polls were to open on a constitutional referendum that Zelaya was pushing ahead even after the Supreme Court and the Attorney General said it was illegal. The constitution bars changes to some of its clauses, such as the ban on a president serving more than one term.                                                                                                  http://www.startribune.com/world/49380887.html?elr=KArks:DCiUBcy7hUiacyKUnciaec8O7EyUr

Congress voted to accept what it said was Zelaya’s letter of resignation, with even Zelaya’s former allies turning against him. Congressional leader Roberto Micheletti was sworn in to serve until Jan. 27 when Zelaya’s term ends. Micheletti belongs to Zelaya’s Liberal Party, but opposed the president in the referendum. “My slogan will be the reconciliation of the grand family of Hondurans … and a grand national dialogue,” Micheletti said after Congress gave the military a long standing ovation. http://www.startribune.com/world/49380887.html?elr=KArks:DCiUBcy7hUiacyKUnciaec8O7EyUr

Funny that President Obama neglects to mention that the Honduran Supreme Court and the Honduran Attorney General “ruled” that the former President’s actions were unconstitutional and illegal. Nor did Obama mention the fact that the new President is the former President’s “Party Deputy” and was the top ranking member of the former President’s Party in Congress. ”Deposed” is not the proper term here, we should be referring to President Zelaya’s impeachment – because with the approval of the Honduran Congress and the Honduran Supreme Court, that is what happened, Zelaya was impeached not deposed.

What happened in Honduras was not a “military takeover”. The Honduarn Military is not now in charge. The Honduran Congress and Supreme Court used the Military to prevent a power grab by former President Zeleya. The Honduran Congress, following Honduran Law, has legally appointed a successor to fill the remainder of the former President’s term. The process that was followed is not all that different than the process that would be followed here in the United States.  The Honduran Government, with the exception of Zeleya, remains intact. This was not a “Coup” as the Government did not replace itself, it simply removed an individual who insisted on following a course of unconstitutional and illegal conduct.

International Press reports of the previous week include the following information, “A resolution read on the floor of [Honduran] Congress accuses Zelaya of “manifest irregular conduct” and “putting in present danger the state of law,” for his refusal to obey a Supreme Court ruling against a constitutional referendum he wanted to hold.  Zelaya, a close ally of the Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, was seeking to remove the limits on presidential terms through a referendum, paving the way for his re-election. Later in the day Congress approved the removal of Zelaya, and cited constitutional articles that said the head of congress assumes the presidency in such cases. Honduran congressional leader, Roberto Micheletti, has been designated to replace the ousted president Jose Manuel Zelaya. http://www.presstv.ir/classic/detail.aspx?id=99290&sectionid=351020706 

Zelaya refused to step down. His removal was initiated by the Honduran Congress and the Honduran Supreme Court, not the Military.  

This situation would be analogous to an American President attempting to serve a 3rd term over the objections of Congress, the Supreme Court and in direct violation of the American Constitution. I have to assume an American President attempting to do such a thing would be impeached and jailed, and that if necessary, the U.S. Military would be used by the Congress and the Supreme Court to “protect and defend” the Constitution.    

Why this strange and undemocratic move by Obama. An outright attempt, , by an American President, to prop up an individual who was attempting to subvert his country’s Constitution and violate the very Honduran Election Law he was sworn to uphold.

Why is it that Obama is embracing Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro, rather than the democratically elected Government of Honduras. The Honduran Government, in the persons of the Honduran Congress and the Honduran Supreme Court, who were democratically elected too … and those “equal branches of Government” were not attempting to subvert the Honduran Constitution, but were excersing the appropriate “separation of powers”, protecting the people of Honduras from Zelaya’s unlawful attempt to subvert the laws and extend his power.

The shocking thing to me is that Obama has sided with the dictators, Chavez and Castro, again. Chavez and Castro are both megalomanics, they have delusions of omnipotence. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/megalomania . That is why both Castro and Chavez have pursued “life terms” as Presidents of their respective dictatorships, the same thing that Zelaya was attempting to do in Honduras. Imagine someone really believing that there is no one else qualified to lead the people in their Country, no one else, but themselves. In the entire Country, no one. That is scary. No wonder the Honduran People impeached Zelaya. No wonder the number 2 man in his own Party replaced him with the support of the Honduran Congress.

But what about Obama? Why does he relate to these meglomaniacs who believe they are omnipotent? Why does he side with the “repressors” rather than those who stand for freedom.   

The former Honduran President reminds me of his allies, Chavez and Castro …. the rules only apply to others. The Honduran Constitution only says what he wants it to say. There is no need for a “separation of powers”  …. he wants all the power to himself. We have a very dangerous man in the White House if he agrees with Chavez and Castro rather than with the rule of law or the separation of powers that occurs when you have three ”equal branches” of Government.

If Obama can’t distinguish which of the parties in Honduras acted legally and who did not … he doesn’t deserve to hold his office. One man acting to subvert his Country’s Constitution against his Country’s Congress, Courts and Military, is not “in the right” and once removed from office, is no longer the “democratically elected President”.

What is next for Obama? Will he join Chavez in his threat of a military invasion of Honduras? Will he put our Military on alert? Why is Obama siding with Castro and Chavez against the people of Honduras?  http://article.wn.com/view/2009/06/29/Chavez_threatens_to_invade_as_Honduran_army_stages_coup/

UPDATE : UPDATE : UPDATE

Contrary to the press reports, Honduras has not been “condemned” for its action, in fact those who have spoken out against Honduras are limited in number – Obama, Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro and the Communist Leader of Nicaragua – Daniel Ortega.

America’s Eurpopean Allies have not spoken out against the Honduran Government – in fact the BBC reports the following:

Interim President Roberto Micheletti has imposed an overnight curfew in Honduras, hours after being sworn in.

The Congress speaker took office after troops ousted elected leader Manuel Zelaya and flew him to Costa Rica.

The removal of Mr Zelaya came amid a power struggle over his plans for constitutional change.

Mr Zelaya, who had been in office since 2006, wanted to hold a referendum that could have led to an extension of his non-renewable four-year term.

Polls for the referendum had been due to open early on Sunday – but troops instead took him from the presidential palace and flew him out of the country.

The ousting of Manuel Zelaya has been criticised by regional neighbours and the US.

Mr Micheletti told a news conference that a nationwide curfew was being imposed for Sunday and Monday, running from 2100 (0300 GMT) to 0600 (1200 GMT) on each night.

Days of tension

The swearing in of Roberto Micheletti – constitutionally second in line for the presidency – was greeted with applause in Congress.

In a speech, he said that he had not assumed power “under the ignominy of a coup d’etat”.

The army had complied with the constitution, he said, and he had reached the presidency “as the result of an absolutely legal transition process”.

Congress said he would serve until 27 January, when Mr Zelaya’s term was due to expire. Presidential elections are planned for 29 November and Mr Micheletti promised these would go ahead.

Both Congress and the courts had opposed Mr Zelaya’s referendum, which asked Hondurans to endorse a vote on unspecified constitutional changes alongside the November elections.

Tensions over the issue had been escalating for several days, with the army refusing to help with preparations for the referendum.

Just before dawn on Sunday, troops stormed the president’s residence. There was confusion over his whereabouts for several hours before he turned up in Costa Rica. 

Congress said it had voted to remove him because of his “repeated violations of the constitution and the law and disregard of orders and judgments of the institutions of Government”.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8123513.stm

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