Conflict in The Middle East – The difference between Islamic Shura and Western Democracy

EGYPT: The citizens of the Middle East are not talking about a “western democracy” in Egypt, Saudi Arabia or anywhere else in the Islamic Middle East … In Saudi Arabia they are “in conflict” over two different types of “shura” or “Islamic consultation”…. The Islamic word “shura” does not translate into the English word “democracy” as the AP and the American Politicians seem to think…. 

The “King”, “Prime Minister” or “President” or whatever title you want to use in an Islamic State, it doesn’t really matter because the real “bosses” in an Islamic State, like Iran, Saudi Arabia or Egypt in two weeks, are the “Religious Elders” or “Islamic Jurists”, not the people, Royals or the Politicians. 

An Islamic State doesn’t consult “with the people” … unless those people are appointed by the “Islamic Jurists”… an Islamic State consults with God, not the people … 

In Saudi Arabia the Sunni form of “shura” is the “Ulema” … the Shia protesters in Saudi Arabia want the “consultations” to take place with the Mullahs in Iran …. not the “religious elders” in Saudi Arabia … that is hardly a shift to a democratic form of government… 

The Egyptian people see the “Islamic Elders” in Egypt as being less corrupt than Mubarak’s regime, but that doesn’t translate to the “elders” being more “democratic”.

THE REVOLUTION IN EGYPT WAS NOT ABOUT EXPANDING WESTERN DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT – IT WAS ABOUT RETURNING EGYPT TO AN ISLAMIC STATE WITH ISLAMIC CONTROL OF THE GOVERNMENT – ABOUT ENDING SECULARISM IN EGYPT…

A secularism, that according to Islam, is inherently corrupt, because the Government’s decisions were not being authorized by Islam or the Islamic Elders … that the Government was corrupt because it was corrupting Islam… 

THE PROTESTERS IN SAUDI ARABIA AND EGYPT ARE NOT PROTESTING AGAINST ISLAM … THEY ARE NOT PROTESTING TO END THE ISLAMIC SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT IN SAUDI ARABIA OR TO LIMIT ISLAMIC GOVERNMENT IN EGYPT.

IN SAUDI ARABIA THE DISPUTE IS OVER WHICH GROUP OF “RELIGIOUS ELDERS” WILL OVERSEE RELIGIOUS DOCTRINE… THE RELIGIOUS ELDERS OF SAUDI ARABIA OR IRAN. 

and the American Press and Politicians are jumping up and down shouting about democracy ….. FOOLS … 

THE ISLAMIC WORD SHURA DOES NOT TRANSLATE TO THE ENGLISH WORD DEMOCRACY… 

SHURA MEANS THAT EVERY GOVERNMENTAL DECISION MUST BE MADE IN A MANNER THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH FUNDAMENTALIST ISLAMIC LAW … SHURA DOES NOT MEAN “IN CONSULTATION WITH THE PEOPLE”… 

SHURA MEANS “IN CONSULTATION” WITH THE “RELIGIOUS ELDERS” … THAT BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT ACTS, IT MUST OBTAIN PERMISSION FROM THE ISLAMIC SCHOLARS OR JURISTS … not the common Egyptian, Saudi or Iranian…  

In Egypt the upper house of the Parliament, what is called the Senate in the United States or the House of Lords in Britain, was called the SHURA … but the Egyptian Shura did not consult with the Islamic Elders, it did not seek permission from the “Islamic Elders” it was a “SECULAR GOVERNING BODY” and as such it was an affront to Islam … a corruption.

Saudi Arabia: Government, Religion the Mid East Conflict and why the Liberal Western Press has no clue …

The KINGDOM OF SAUDI ARABIA has a Monarch (how surprising – a Kingdom with a King). 

Saudi Arabia’s form of Government is an ABSOULTE ISLAMIC MONARCHY – The Country’s Constitution is the Quran…. 

The Country of Saudi Arabia is ruled by SUNNI SHARIA LAW … not civil law. 

THE SAUDI ARABIAN GOVERNMENT IS NOT A SECULAR GOVERNMENT. 

There are no elections or political parties in Saudi Arabia…. the King, however, rules in consultation with the members of the Ulema (Islamic religious scholars)…. Similar to what we will have in Egypt in two weeks time … 

The Saudi King is known as the “Defender of the Islamic faith” and two of the principle sites of Islam are located within the Country…

Because Saudi Arabia is an Islamic state, “it is … inevitable that the Ulema should play a key role within the Kingdom. They play an influential part in [a number of] fields of government”. These include the judicial system (the Ulema being the interpreters and dispensers of Sharia law), education and scientific research (through control of the education system and the Ministry of Education) … 

The Ulema, the religious and clerical leadership, are led by the Al ash-Sheikh, the descendants of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab, founder of the dominant Wahhabi form of SUNNI ISLAM in Saudi Arabia. The alliance between the Al-Saud (the royal family) and the Al ash-Sheikh has existed since the First Saudi State and is based on a power-sharing understanding whereby the Al-Saud have political predominance but will support and propagate the Al ash-Sheikh’s Wahhabism while the Al ash-Sheikh have predominance in religious matters but will support the Al-Saud’s rule. 

THE PROTESTERS IN SAUDI ARBAIA ARE NOT CALLING FOR THE INTRODUCTION OF A WESTERN SYLTED DEMOCRACY…. THEY ARE CALLING FOR AN EXPANSION OF RIGHTS FOR THE COMPETING SHIA’ BRANCH OF FUNDAMENTALIST ISLAM… 

The Shia’ have their own form of Sharia Law, based on their interpretation of Islam… 

IRAN IS SPONSORING THE SHIA’ PROTESTERS IN SAUDI ARABIA… 

The protests are not about “Civil Rights” or “Politics” or “Democracy” but about two competing forms of Fundamentalist Islam … one SUNNI and one SHIA’ 

No one, on either side, is proposing a western styled democracy for Saudi Arabia… 

ACCORDING TO SAUDI ARBIA’S LAWS AND CONSTITUTION THE SHIA’ PROTESTS ARE, IN FACT, ILLEGAL… 

PROTESTS AGAINST THE MONARCHY ALLEGING A VIOLATION OF SUNNI ISLAMIC LAW WOULD BE TOLERATED UNDER SAUDI LAW… But those protests would be organized by the Ulema in Saudi Arabia, not by the Iranians in Tehran … 

The Saudi Monarchy would actually have a “duty” to stamp out the Shia’ protests under the Sunni Sharia Law … it would be an imperative in order to protect and defend the Saudi Constitution (based on the Quran and Sunni Sharia Law) and to defend the Sunni faith against an incursion of the Shi’ ite from Iran… 

The “strong arm” that rules Saudi Arabia is SUNNI ISLAM and the Ulema; the SWORD they wield in defense of Sunni Islam is the Saudi Monarchy and their Military … the issue in Saudi Arabia is not democracy but who (Sunni or Shia’) gets to wield the sword … 

The King of Saudi Arabia, the Saudi Royal Family and the Military serve the Ulema and Sunni Islam in Saudi Arabia … very much like the “government” and “military” in Iran serves the Mullahs and Shia’ Islam  …. 

If you are looking for a clue as to what will happen to the “protesters” on March 11, 2011 in Saudi Arabia, look to Tehran not Cairo … The “Shia clerics” who fostered the “protests” in Cairo have no footing in Saudi Arabia … unless the Ulema grant them one … 

THE ULEMA HAVE A SAY IN EVERY FACET OF DAILY LIFE IN SAUDI ARABIA… from the building of highways to how much oil gets produced … even the decision as to whether American Troops are allowed on Saudi soil …

ONCE AGAIN, THINGS ARE NOT AS CLEAR AS THE PRESS WOULD HAVE YOU BELIEVE…

The “conflict” in Saudi Arabia is a religious one … the Shia’ are trying to wrestle control of RELIGIOUS not SECULAR affairs from the Ulema …

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