Pelosi’s Trojan Horse For Government Run Health Care – The Health Care “Tiggers”

I’m insulted.

Just how stupid do the Democrats think I am?

Pelosi and her Health Care Triggers?

The Democrats are now pushing for a “back door” way to force “Government Run” or “Public Option Heath Care” on America when we don’t want it.

The Democrats simply refuse to listen to the overwhelming majority of American People.  

The Democrats less than honest plan?

Pelosi and the Democrats will set arbitrary goals for the health care industry and insurance companies to meet.

Arbitrary goals in cost reduction and reductions in the numbers of uninsured.

Fail to meet those numbers or goals and we will jump in and force Government Run Health Care on the American People.

What the hell are they thinking? We are not that stupid.

How the hell will any of these “numbers” be met when the Democarts keep making up the numbers anyway.

Example: The Dems claim there are 47 million uninsured. The Congressional Budget Office states that some number under 14 million are uninsured. Whose number do we use? Who gets to “certify the count”? 

Do they really think we are that stupid?

Lets suppose the impossible happens and all 14 million of the unninsured are added to the rolls of the insured. (Impossible? Not all of the 14 million want to buy insurance and if they are not forced, against their will, to do so, I wouldn’t assume they will voluntarily change their minds and buy insuarnce). But lets assume all 14 million obtain coverage. Won’t Pelosi and her crew claim that their are still “34 million uninsured”? (Subtracting 14 million from the bogus number of 47 million, leaves us with 34 million fictious uninsured. )

As to cost reductions, Pelosi and her crew steadfastly refuse to consider any type of meaningful reform to reduce expenses or allow reductions in cost so that the price of insurance can go down.

Talking about the party of “NO”, the Democarts have said “NO” to over 800 amendments offered by Repbulicans to this Health Care initaitive. 800 amendments and the Democrats couldn’t find even a dozen to agree with.

Who is saying no to change – Who is saying “NO” we won’t listen to the American People.  

Many of these amendments have overwhelming, bi-partisan, public support.

Key suggestions the the Democrats refuse to consider:

1). TORT REFORM. Heaven forbid that the country stop spending nearly 20 cents of every health care dollar on defending senseless lawsuits or in practicing defensive medicine. The Democrats gotta keep that moneuy flowing to their Trial Lawyer buddies. The problem runs through the Democartic party all the way down to its roots.  John Edwards is a classic example – pursuing and frequently winning “unwinable lawsuits”. Why do you think they are called unwinable lawsuits unwinable? Because in a just system – the Plaintiff shouldn’t win a dime.

2) Stop providing “free” benefits to those here illegally. 15 cents of every health care dollar goes to care for the illegals who  Speaker Pelosi called “patriotic” for violating US laws to enter this Country without the approval of the US Immgration Department. Lets take care of the people who are here leagally and who have paid into the system first. Don’t cut benefits for our retirees to pay for those here illegally. The Democrats will tell you this is unamerican – well 80% of America favors such a course of action.

3) Allow Insurers to market health insurance the way auto insurance companies do – accross state lines and with “national” health care insurance products. We have all heard the young business woman speak out at the “Town Hall Meeting” in California where she has only 6 health care insurance companies to choose from – 1300 health care companies conduct business in the US and she has 6 to choose from. The Democrats have restricted access to insurance for decades to benefit there buddies in the industry and wonder why we don’t have competition. 

Don’t think that the Democrats really support competition – what they really want is a “Single Payor”, “Government Run” and “Government Rationed” health care system. There can be no competition under such a business model – what they give you and what you pay for it is Government determined. No compeition, no choices.

4). Continue the current Federal prohibition on using taxpayer money to fund abortions. On 8 spearate occassions amendments have been offered to add specific language to the Health Care bill to make sure the American people will not be asked to foot this type of an expense, an expense that 85% of the American public oppose spending Taxpayer money on. That is right – 85%. There are few issues where Americans agree in such large numbers. The Democrats have turned down all 8 amendments. Who is saying “NO”?

Just how stupid do the Democrats think the American people are? Do they think we can’t tell when all they are doing is changing their commercials for the same old product? “Repackaging” they call it.

We, “The People” tell them we don’t want Government Run and rationed health care and what do they do?

Do they start over on their Health care proposals?  No!

Do they look for changes that have bipartisan support? No!

What are they doing? “Repackaging” the same old “Single Payor”, “Government Run & rationed” health care proposals.

Once we figured out that “Single Payor” really meant “government run” and “rationed” health care they tried to repackage the same product as “Co-op” healthcare. Pelosi’s Health Care Triggers are just another way to say, “Okay we won’t force government run and rationed healthcare down your throat today – we will do it in 3 to 5 years”.

What the hell are they thinking. I don’t want the government to run health care or be in charge of denying care ever …. not today, not tommorow and not in 5 years.

I want to see reform, however, under no circumstance do the American people want the Government to run Health Care.

How in the world can you trust people who believe in re-packaging. People who refuse to listen to the voice of the American people.     

Tell your Representatives In Congress we see through the “Health Care Triggers Sham” Pelosi has proposed and that our answer is still NO.

Democrat Liberals Win – Detroit/UAW loses Another Round

In Big Win For Liberals, Waxman Ousts Dingell As Energy And Commerce Chair

By Greg Sargent and Eric Kleefeld – November 20, 2008, 11:22AM

This is big, big, big. In a victory for the Democratic left, Rep. Henry Waxman has just successfully ousted Rep. John Dingell from his longtime perch as head of the Energy and Commerce Committee.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s office confirms to us the vote count in the Democratic Caucus moments ago: Waxman 137 votes, Dingell 122 votes.

The defeat of Dingell is a major victory for environmentalists, removing a key obstacle to real energy reform just as a Democrat with climate change high on his agenda takes the Presidency.

Dingell, who first entered the House way back when Eisenhower was president, had been the head Democrat on this committee ever since 1981. But many of the more liberal members over the years came to view him as too friendly to Michigan’s auto industry and hostile to environmentalists — especially on issues like climate change and carbon limits.

It also shakes up Congress’ seniority system and is yet another sign that the political momentum is squarely in the camp of aggressive Dems. Waxman played a lead role in staking out a far more aggressive stance towards the Bush administration than many other more cautious Dems would take.

Waxman used his House Oversight chairmanship to grill the administration over its scandals and incompetence, making him a hero to many Democrats and a viable candidate for change over Dingell.

Now his victory stands as a harbinger of just how much change is coming.

Waxman’s Ascent Could Foreshadow Good Relations Between President And House

By Greg Sargent – November 20, 2008, 1:26PM

Here’s another wrinkle to consider in the wake of Henry Waxman’s stunning ascent to the chairmanship of the Energy and Commerce Committee.

Congressional insiders point out that Barack Obama, in a little-noticed move a few days ago, appointed as the top White House liason to Congress one Philip Schiliro, who has spent many of his past 25 years on the Hill working for (you guessed it) Waxman.

In the wake of Waxman’s victory, this is significant. It means Waxman will be closer to the center of the action and will have a direct line into the White House. Congressional insiders also point out that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is an ally of Waxman — and hence, of Obama’s liason to Congress.

Also, as Harold Meyerson points out, Waxman is perhaps the House’s leading legislator on three key issues prioritized by Obama: Universal health care, global warming, and the need for strengthened consumer protections.

All of this presages better relations between the Dem administration and the House than the last Democratic President enjoyed, even while Congress was controlled by Dems. This isn’t a terribly surprising prediction, but it’s another sign that Obama is extremely well positioned to make big things happen rather quickly once he takes power.


Obama, Granholm, Pelosi, Waxman, Dingell – The Death of American Automobile Manufacturing

Obama picks Michigan’s Granholm on the Economy – More Smoke & Mirrors

This might be funny, if it were not so sad. It is actually heartbreaking. Michigan will get what it deserves – after 6 years of Granholm – you moved her policies to Washington.

There is nothig to be gained from saying I told you so, but I told you so ……. read


This is simply tragic. Obama hasn’t been sworn in yet, but he is clearly demonstrating his intent to govern from the far left. Woe to Michigan ……….

The economic disaster will certainly worsen as predicted …….. TAX AND SPEND BIG GOVERNMENT HAS NEVER WORKED ANYWHERE AT ANYTIME. The economic turmoil of the Jimmy Carter days may look like “good times” compared to where we appear to be heading …………

Obama to hold meeting with economic advisers today


WASHINGTON — Gov. Jennifer Granholm and former U.S. Rep. David Bonior are to serve on a panel of financial luminaries and corporate experts advising President-elect Barack Obama on the nation’s hard-bitten economy, ensuring Michigan, its troubled auto industry and labor have a seat at the table.                                           


If you think either Michigan or the Michigan Auto Industry will have a seat anywhere you are mistaking ……. If the Democrats were going to offer a seat at their table they could have done so years ago ….. Michigan has been sending two Democratic US Senators and a predominantly Democratic Congressional caucus to Washington for years – nothing has changed in that regard.  Remember it was Nancy Pelosi, Democratic Speaker of The House of Representatives, who demoted the “Big Three” to the “Detroit Three”. For those of you that have not caught on yet, the term “Detroit Three” is not only a derogatory insult and dismissive, but it carries far more sinister tones – As the “Detroit Three” the “Big Three” were no longer a “National” issue but became a local Michigan problem.

Pelosi and the liberal Democrats despise the Auto Industry – they want your vote on election day and spit in your face after the votes have been counted. The votes have been counted – its time to shut your eyes again …………. here comes the spit.

As for your seat at the table, watch out when you go to sit down – they are liable to pull the chair away . The talk about a “bailout”, if one takes place, is smoke and mirrors. Another corporate handout with the right hand while the left hand increases business taxes and implements policies that will inhibit US car sales. They take away more than they give ……..

You think not – then read this ……………..

The Los Angles Times

Power struggle may open rift among House Democrats

Rep. Henry Waxman wants to replace Rep. John Dingell as head of the energy and commerce committee, which will take the lead on Obama’s plans on global warming.

Reporting from Washington — Opening a split among congressional Democrats that could affect President-elect Barack Obama’s efforts to curb global warming, a California environmentalist is trying to wrest control of a crucial House committee from its chairman, who is the automobile industry’s strongest ally in fighting stricter antipollution standards.

Rep. Henry A. Waxman (D-Beverly Hills[CA]) has announced that he wants to replace Rep. John D. Dingell (D-[Detroit]Mich.) as chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, which will take the lead on Obama’s signature issues of energy, global warming and healthcare. [Oh, you didn’t think the auto industry was a signature issue did you? Only “National” issues get signature status.]

Over the years, Dingell has given invaluable support to the auto companies’ fights against pollution and fuel economy standards that they considered unrealistic, and Waxman’s challenge to his leadership is the culmination of a decades-long rivalry between the two powerful lawmakers, the panel’s top two Democrats.

The outcome of the fight could affect whether action on Obama’s energy agenda will be tilted toward the interests of Rust Belt industrial Democrats or more aggressive antipollution efforts that California has spearheaded.

It opens divisions among triumphant Democrats just as they come off a landmark election that put Obama in the White House and expanded the party’s majorities in the House and Senate — and it is a window into how power struggles among Democrats may intensify now that there is so much more power to wield. [It is a window into how Liberal Democrats have thwarted economic growth while blaming the Bush Administration].

Dingell, who in the Democratic primaries endorsed the presidential candidacy of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, represents a district near Detroit, and the loss of his position would be seen as a blow to the auto industry at a particularly trying time. Detroit is being battered by declining car sales, high gas prices and an economy in turmoil. In a sign of the political sensitivity of the fight, several auto industry spokesmen declined to comment on the choice between Dingell and Waxman.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco[CA]) is officially neutral in the dispute, but she is known to be sympathetic to Waxman’s positions on the environment and has repeatedly crossed swords with Dingell over the years:


* In 2002, Pelosi endorsed an unsuccessful primary challenger to Dingell.

* In 2007, she set up a special panel to address global warming, a move that was seen as a way to circumvent Dingell.

* Last year, she and Waxman fought against a Dingell global warming bill that would have prohibited California and other states from taking tougher action than the federal government to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

[Officially neutral, who are they kidding?].

Dingell supported that provision because, he said, it was easier for auto companies to comply with a uniform national standard than a patchwork of state laws, and Waxman and Pelosi saw it as a direct shot at California’s landmark law to cut tailpipe emissions. The provision was dropped from a global warming draft bill Dingell circulated this fall.

[Question the scientific validity of Global Warming? See:

Waxman’s feud with Dingell is even longer-running. Throughout the 1980s, as they rose in seniority on the energy and commerce committee, the two battled over clean-air laws, toxic waste regulation and other environmental issues.

As chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, Waxman has been a thorn in the Bush administration’s side with frequent hearings and reports critical of its performance. But now that a Democrat will be in the White House, that oversight role may not be as appealing to Waxman as the chairman of the energy and commerce committee, which has jurisdiction over many issues important to the new administration.

“In large measure, our success as a Democratic caucus will depend on how the commerce committee performs,” Waxman said in a letter to Democrats announcing his plans.

Environmentalists are delighted at the prospect of a Waxman chairmanship.

“It is much more likely we will advance a progressive, forward-looking agenda with a progressive, forward-thinking leader like Waxman than with an old bull who defends Detroit like Dingell,” said Dan Becker, director of the Safe Climate Campaign, an environmental advocacy group.,0,7068890.story?track=rss  

They couldn’t demonize Dingell anymore than this, even if he were, say, a Republican. So Dingell is now being protrayed as an anti-environmental zealot.  This is no accident. Do you think any Speaker of The House has previously endorsed a Primary challenger over a Representative with 53 years of party senority in Washington. Dingell is the longest serving US Representative currently in Congress. (1955 to date). In the history of the United States only 1 Congressman has served longer. Wait, just a minute, he supports the right to own guns too …. he has just gotta go. 

As for being anti-environment, consider these comments made on December 20, 2006, “The formidable Democrat from Michigan, now 80, has served 51 years in the House of Representatives — the second-longest of any congressional career in history. During that time, he played a key role in pushing through many of America’s cornerstone environmental laws, including the Wilderness Act, the Endangered Species Act, the Clean Air Act, the Marine Mammal Protection Act, the National Environmental Policy Act, and the original Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE)“.  

Considering this track record on environmental issues, what was the bottom line in this article, “That’s why some environmentalists see Dingell as the single biggest roadblock on the path toward meaningful climate policy in the 110th Congress”. 

What? Wasn’t it all Bush’s fault? This article presents a rare opportunity to read about Democratic double dealing. Promises made only to be broken, again. Michigan’s auto industry isn’t playing “second fiddle” any longer, now it is about to lose its only chair in the band.

This writer is not a Dingell supporter, however, this is a political lynching. Dingell has been a loyal, moderate, center-left, Democrat who has obtained the trust and admiration of his electorate like none before him. Now the “new administration” is painting Dingell as representing some ”fringe” element of the Democratic Party.  

If Michigan is lucky, Obama, Granholm, Pelosi and Waxman will send a few of the “windmill factories” your way when they are done. 


Ford announces $129M 3Q loss, burns $7.7B in cash – Ford to cut 2,260 workers after reporting $129 million 3Q loss                                                                                 

By TOM KRISHER and JAMES PRICHARD, AP Business Writers   

General Motors will release its 2008 3rd Quarter results at 10:30 AM this morning.

“Due to deteriorating market conditions and a dire cash crunch, General Motors CEO Rick Wagoner will be announcing “important changes” during his company’s 3rd quarter earnings report on Friday at 11AM EST The Detroit News obtained an executive level email that foretells the bad news ahead but doesn’t go into specifics ……….”         The Friday announcement will likely include a hefty financial loss, too, as evidenced by an earlier announced loss of $2.5 billion by GMAC financial.

GM reports $2.5B 3Q loss, says running out of cash

DETROIT, Mich. – General Motors Corp. says it lost $2.5 billion in the third quarter and warned that it could run out of cash in 2009. GM also said it has suspended talks to acquire Chrysler. While it didn’t specifically name the automaker, GM said it was setting aside considerations for a “strategic acquisition.”

The automaker also said its cash burn for the quarter accelerated to $6.9 billion due to a severe U.S. auto sales slump. The company on Friday reported a net loss of $4.45 per share during the quarter, compared with a record-setting loss of $39 billion, or $68.85 per share, a year ago.  GM shares fell 53 cents, or 11 percent, to $4.27 in morning trading. 

A Chrysler LLC sale to GM seems unlikely -Chrysler LLC is privately held, however, Daimler AG holds a 19.9 % stake in the company –                                                   

Oct 23, 2008 – “Today, Daimler AG reported a net loss of euro 351 million for its 19.9 per cent share of Chrysler Holding LLC’s second quarter 2008 results under International Financial Reporting Standards (IFRS). On a U.S. GAAP basis, Daimler AG’s net loss for Chrysler Holding LLC was euro 88 million, of which a euro 76 million net loss is attributable to the automotive business of Chrysler LLC.” [This report allows us to project that Chrysler LLC’s loss in 2nd quarter 2008 (80.1 % stake) would approximate $352 million euro loss or $447 million dollar loss].                                                                    

Michigan Recession Continues to Deepen Reports Comerica Bank’s Michigan Business Activity Index – “September’s advanced figure is the lowest level in 14 years.” [That would make it the lowest since November 1994 – A Democratic Congress and the Clinton Administration – Wasn’t the Clinton Administration all “milk & honey”?].                     ,+2008

Then there is Toyota – Toyota’s Q1 profit drops 39% – Posted Aug 7th 2008 6:58PM – Toyota is not used to seeing its profit margins drop, as the Japanese auto giant has enjoyed increased profit for nine straight years. Expect that run to end this year …. For the year, Toyota has revised its sales forecast from 9.06 million units to an estimated 8.74 million. For the first quarter of the year that ended in June, Toyota has also announced that its operating profit took a 39% plunge from lower sales in both the United States and Europe …. Still, Toyota sales remain fairly strong in this sinking market and a profit is a profit. We’d imagine that this is a problem any one of the Detroit 3 would love to have on its hands.

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