9 Christians Killed, 150 Injured in Attack By 15,000 Muslims and Egyptian Army

9 Christians Killed, 150 Injured in Attack By 15,000 Muslims and Egyptian Army 

Entrance St. Simon the Tanner Monastery

According to Father Abram Fahmy, pastor of St. Simon the Tanner Monastery in Mokatam Hills, on the outskirts of Cairo, Copts were killed and injured today in a fresh attack by Muslims. It was reported the Egyptian army fired live ammunition on Copts. The attack has claimed until now the lives of 9 Copts and injured 150, 45 seriously. 

St. Simon the Tanner Church is a series of caves containing seven churches and chapels of the Monastery of St. Simon the Tanner. Carved directly from the rock, the Coptic Christian churches are a unique example of the faith and dedication of the zabaleen people. The church(es) are tucked away in the Muqattam Hills.

Muslims threw fire balls at the Monastery from the top of the hills. Coptic youth have arrested five of them, who are now being held within the Monastery grounds, waiting to be handed over to the authorities. 

Eight homes and 20 garbage recycling factories owned by Copts have been torched, as well as 30 garbage collection vehicles.

St Simon the Tanner Hall (Cave #1)

The incident started when 500 Coptic demonstrators from Manshier Nasr, which is near the Monastery, were on their way to join the Coptic protest near the Egyptian TV Building, to show their solidarity with the Copts of the village of Soul in Atfif, who were forcibly displaced from their village and their church torched. Nearly 15,000 Muslims from the nearby area of Sayeda Aisha and Mokattam, who were armed with weapons including automatic guns, confronted the Copts. 

The clashes first started with hurling of stones at the Coptic demonstrators, then Molotov Cocktails. According to eyewitnesses the Copts called the army which arrived at the scene at 15:00 (3:00 PM Egyptian time) with 10 tanks . At first the military stood by watching, then shot in the air, then at the Coptic side with live ammunition. 

“We were at one side and the Muslim on the other, we have hundreds of injured at the Coptic side,” said an eyewitness. “The Muslims were also shooting from behind the army tanks.”  

 

Christians march from Cairo TV to Tahrir Sqaure

There was a media blackout on the incident. There are no reports of any Muslim casualties. 

SO MUCH FOR THE OFTEN REPEATED CLAIM THAT THE EYPTIAN MILITARY CAN PREVENT THE FUNDAMENTALISTS FROM TAKING CONTROL OF EGYPT. AS THE SMALL NUMBER OF SECULAR LEFTISTS IN EGYPT IS SWEPT OUT OF THE WAY BY THEIR MASTERS, THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD, EGYPT PLUNGES FULL SPEED AHEAD INTO A REINCARNATION AS A FUNDAMENTALIST ISLAMIC STATE.  

IRAN REPEATED.

Sectarian Clashes in Egypt Challenge Revolutionary Idealism

 

Christians march from Cairo TV to Tahrir Sqaure

Sectarian Clashes in Egypt Challenge Revolutionary Idealism

 
CAIRO: On the banks of the Nile, in the middle of a roiling protest Wednesday by hundreds of chanting Christians, a man raised a Koran in one hand and a wooden cross in the other. “I came here because we don’t want sectarian strife,” said Ahmed Moustafa, a 37-year-old Muslim. “Muslims and Christians are united.”  

But such idealism might be waning as Egyptians confront the worst outbreak of religious violence since Hosni Mubarak was swept out of power Feb. 11. The deaths of 13 people in clashes in Cairo between Muslims and Christians late Tuesday have prompted calls for religious tolerance and raised the prospect of a deepening sectarian divide after a post-revolution honeymoon period. Street battles broke out after Copts set up roadblocks in major arteries to protest the destruction of one of their churches. Security is scant in this metropolis of 18 million, where the military-controlled government is still groping to find a way to tamp down crime with no functioning police force. 

Muslim Brotherhood gathers in Tahrir Square for counter protest

Although clashes between Muslims and Christians are not new in Egypt, they often take place far from the capital. That the overnight violence continued for hours near the heart of Cairo is bound to add to concerns among Christians that weeks of tumult in Egypt have left them particularly vulnerable in a country that is overwhelmingly Muslim. 

Some witnesses said that the Egyptian army had stood by for as long as four hours without intervening in the fighting.  http://aina.org/news/2011039212001.htm

Protesters march in Cairo after church attacks

Officials said that all of those who were killed died of gunshot wounds and that 140 others were injured. Copts said that all of the victims were Christian adherents, but other reports said that as many as five Muslims were killed.

SO MUCH FOR THE OFTEN REPEATED CLAIM THAT THE EYPTIAN MILITARY CAN PREVENT THE FUNDAMENTALISTS FROM TAKING CONTROL OF EGYPT.
 
AS THE SMALL NUMBER OF SECULAR LEFTISTS IN EGYPT IS SWEPT OUT OF THE WAY BY THEIR MASTERS, THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD, EGYPT PLUNGES FULL SPEED AHEAD INTO A REINCARNATION AS AN FUNDAMENTALIST ISLAMIC STATE.  

IRAN REPEATED.

Egyptian Armed Forces Fire at Christian Monasteries, 19 Injured

St. Bishoy Monastery

Egyptian Armed Forces Fire at Christian Monasteries, 19 Injured

For the second time in as many days, Egyptian armed force stormed the 5th century old St. Bishoy monastery in Wadi el-Natroun, 110 kilometers (66 miles) from Cairo. Live ammunition was fired, wounding two monks and six Coptic monastery workers. Several sources confirmed the army’s use of RPG ammunition. Four people have been arrested including three monks and a Coptic lawyer who was at the monastery investigating yesterday’s army attack.Monk Aksios Ava Bishoy reported the armed forces stormed the main entrance gate to the monastery in the morning using five tanks, armored vehicles and a bulldozer to demolish the fence built by the monastery last month to protect themselves and the monastery from the lawlessness which prevailed in Egypt during the January 25 Uprising.(Five Tanks vs, Three Monks …. The Army should have called in reinforcements) “When we tried to address them, the army fired live bullets, wounding Father Feltaows in the leg and Father Barnabas in the abdomen,” said Monk Ava Bishoy. “Six Coptic workers in the monastery were also injured, some with serious injuries to the chest.”Father Hemanot Ava Bishoy said the army fired live ammunition and RPGs continuously for 30 minutes, which hit part of the ancient fence inside the monastery. “The army was shocked to see the monks standing there praying ‘Lord have mercy’ without running away. This is what really upset them,” he said. “As the soldiers were demolishing the gate and the fence they were chanting ‘Allahu Akbar’ and ‘Victory, Victory’.”He also added that the army prevented the monastery’s car from taking the injured to hospital.

Monastery of St. Makarios of Alexandria

The army also attacked the Monastery of St. Makarios of Alexandria in Wady el-Rayan, Fayoum, 100 km (60 miles) from Cairo. It stormed the monastery and fired live ammunition on the monks. Father Mina said that one monk was shot and more than ten have injuries caused by being beaten with batons. The army demolished the newly erected fence and one room from the actual monastery and confiscated building materials. The monastery had also built a fence to protect itself after January 25 and after being attacked by armed Arabs and robbers leading to the injury of six monks, including one monk in critical condition who is still hospitalized.

The army had given on February 21 an ultimatum to this monastery that if the

Brother Nicoderne St. Bishoy Monastery, Egypt

 fence was not demolished within 48 hours by the monks, the army would remove it themselves.The Egyptian Armed Forces issued a statement on their Facebook page denying that any attack took place on St. Bishoy Monastery.(WELL THAT SETTLES IT!  IF YOU READ IT ON FACE BOOK IT MUST BE TRUE!)Father Hedra Ava Bishoy said they are in possession of whole carton of empty bullet shells besides the people who are presently in hospital to prove otherwise.The army attack came after the monks built a fence for their protection after the police guards left their posts and fled post the January 25th Uprising and after being attacked by prisoners who were at large, having escaped from their prisons during that period.”We contacted state security and they said there was no police available for protection,” said Father Bemwa,” So we called the Egyptian TV dozens of times to appeal for help and then we were put in touch with the military personnel who told us to protect ourselves until they reach us.”Nearly 7000 Copts staged a peaceful rally in front of the Coptic Cathedral in Cairo, after which they marched towards Tahrir Square to protest the armed forces attacks on Coptic monasteries….

Nearly 4000 Muslims Attack Christian Homes in Egypt, Torch Church

 

 

Nearly 4000 Muslims Attack Christian Homes in Egypt, Torch Church

Assyrian International News Agency  03/05/2011

(McAuley’s World Additions in blue)

(AINA) — A mob of nearly four thousand Muslims has attacked Coptic homes this evening in the village of Soul, Atfif in Helwan Governorate, 30 kilometers (18 miles) from Cairo, and torched the Church of St. Mina and St. George. There are conflicting reports about the whereabouts of the Church pastor Father Yosha and three deacons who were at church; some say they died in the fire and some say they are being held captive by the Muslims inside the church.

Witnesses report the mob prevented the fire brigade from entering the village. The army, which has been stationed for the last two days in the village of Bromil, 7 kilometers from Soul, initially refused to go into Soul, according to the officer in charge. When the army finally sent three tanks to the village, Muslim elders sent them away, saying that

Arson of the Church of St. Mina and St. George, Soul, Atfif, Egypt

 everything was “in order now.”

A curfew has been imposed on the 12,000 Christians in the village.

This incident was triggered by a relationship between 40-year-old Copt Ashraf Iskander and a Muslim woman. Yesterday a “reconciliation” meeting was arranged between the relevant Coptic and Muslim families and together with the Muslim elders it was decided that Ashraf Iskander would have to leave the village because Muslims torched his house.

The father of the Muslim woman was killed by his cousin because he did not kill his daughter to preserve the family’s honor, which led the woman’s brother (the son of the murdered father) to avenge the death of his father by killing the cousin (his father’s murderer). The village Muslims blamed the Christians (for the murders) . (So the 2 murders that led to this attack took place between family members of the Muslim woman – the 1st an honor killing, the 2nd a revenge killing for the honor killing).

The Muslim mob attacked the church, exploding 5-6 gas cylinders inside the church, pulled down the cross and the domes and burnt everything inside. Activist Ramy Kamel of Katibatibia Coptic advocacy called US-based Coptic Hope Sat TV and sent an SOS on behalf of the Copts in Soul village, as they are presently being attacked by the mob. He also said that no one is able to contact the priest and the deacons inside the burning church and there is no answer from their mobile phones.

Coptic activist Wagih Yacoub reported the mob has broken into Coptic homes and has called on Copts to leave the village. “Terrorized Copts have fled and some hid in homes of Muslim neighbors,” he added.

Witnesses said the mob chanted “Allahu Akbar” (God is great) and vowed to conduct their morning prayers on the church plot after razing it. (Thank goodness they were not chanting “democracy Akbar” or “Democracy is great)

By Mary Abdelmassih

http://www.aina.org/news/20110304222016.htm

Christians Protest Arson of St Minas Church in Cairo

(AINA) — Thousands of Christians have been staging sit-in since March 5 in front of the Egyptian TV building on the Nile Corniche in Cairo, protesting the attack on the church in the village of Soul and the inaction of the Egyptian armed forces in preventing the Muslims from torching and demolishing the church and terrorizing the Christian Copts and forcing them to evacuate the village.

POST SCRIPT 

Shouldn’t President Obama speak out and ask the Muslim world to show more COMPASSSION AND TOLERANCE FOR THEIR CHRISTAIN NEIGHBORS … to ask the Muslim World to speak out against violence and protest in favor of the peaceful resolution of all disputes, religious, political and military …. and to open their minds and hearts and acknowledge a universal right to worship or not worship as each individual determines for themselves …. 

LETS ASK THOSE PROTESTING REPRESENTATIVE KING’S HEARING IF SUCH A STATEMENT ISN’T IN ORDER …

 IF YOU ARE A MUSLIM TODAY AND YOU DON’T WANT TO BE CONFUSED WITH A TERRORIST … CLEAR YOUR THOAT AND SPEAK OUT AGAINST TERRORISM, VIOLENCE AND RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE BY ALL ….  

Life Lessons We Seem To Have Forgotten:

1). Mob rule is always bad 

2). “Change” achieved through street violence never yeilds what it promises ….

 3). A crowd’s size has no meaningful correlation to its “moral authority” …  

Conflict in The Middle East – The difference between Islamic Shura and Western Democracy

EGYPT: The citizens of the Middle East are not talking about a “western democracy” in Egypt, Saudi Arabia or anywhere else in the Islamic Middle East … In Saudi Arabia they are “in conflict” over two different types of “shura” or “Islamic consultation”…. The Islamic word “shura” does not translate into the English word “democracy” as the AP and the American Politicians seem to think…. 

The “King”, “Prime Minister” or “President” or whatever title you want to use in an Islamic State, it doesn’t really matter because the real “bosses” in an Islamic State, like Iran, Saudi Arabia or Egypt in two weeks, are the “Religious Elders” or “Islamic Jurists”, not the people, Royals or the Politicians. 

An Islamic State doesn’t consult “with the people” … unless those people are appointed by the “Islamic Jurists”… an Islamic State consults with God, not the people … 

In Saudi Arabia the Sunni form of “shura” is the “Ulema” … the Shia protesters in Saudi Arabia want the “consultations” to take place with the Mullahs in Iran …. not the “religious elders” in Saudi Arabia … that is hardly a shift to a democratic form of government… 

The Egyptian people see the “Islamic Elders” in Egypt as being less corrupt than Mubarak’s regime, but that doesn’t translate to the “elders” being more “democratic”.

THE REVOLUTION IN EGYPT WAS NOT ABOUT EXPANDING WESTERN DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT – IT WAS ABOUT RETURNING EGYPT TO AN ISLAMIC STATE WITH ISLAMIC CONTROL OF THE GOVERNMENT – ABOUT ENDING SECULARISM IN EGYPT…

A secularism, that according to Islam, is inherently corrupt, because the Government’s decisions were not being authorized by Islam or the Islamic Elders … that the Government was corrupt because it was corrupting Islam… 

THE PROTESTERS IN SAUDI ARABIA AND EGYPT ARE NOT PROTESTING AGAINST ISLAM … THEY ARE NOT PROTESTING TO END THE ISLAMIC SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT IN SAUDI ARABIA OR TO LIMIT ISLAMIC GOVERNMENT IN EGYPT.

IN SAUDI ARABIA THE DISPUTE IS OVER WHICH GROUP OF “RELIGIOUS ELDERS” WILL OVERSEE RELIGIOUS DOCTRINE… THE RELIGIOUS ELDERS OF SAUDI ARABIA OR IRAN. 

and the American Press and Politicians are jumping up and down shouting about democracy ….. FOOLS … 

THE ISLAMIC WORD SHURA DOES NOT TRANSLATE TO THE ENGLISH WORD DEMOCRACY… 

SHURA MEANS THAT EVERY GOVERNMENTAL DECISION MUST BE MADE IN A MANNER THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH FUNDAMENTALIST ISLAMIC LAW … SHURA DOES NOT MEAN “IN CONSULTATION WITH THE PEOPLE”… 

SHURA MEANS “IN CONSULTATION” WITH THE “RELIGIOUS ELDERS” … THAT BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT ACTS, IT MUST OBTAIN PERMISSION FROM THE ISLAMIC SCHOLARS OR JURISTS … not the common Egyptian, Saudi or Iranian…  

In Egypt the upper house of the Parliament, what is called the Senate in the United States or the House of Lords in Britain, was called the SHURA … but the Egyptian Shura did not consult with the Islamic Elders, it did not seek permission from the “Islamic Elders” it was a “SECULAR GOVERNING BODY” and as such it was an affront to Islam … a corruption.

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